was real, ebola kills, ebola's gonna kill me unless i do one or two things differently.re was a huge fear. and they changed their behaviors in ways that suddenly slowed down and took the heat out of this thing. and that's what turned it around-- liberians turned their country around. we got in there a little bit afterward and took a lot of credit. >> narrator: thousands more were still to die across west africa. but the changing behavior of the population and the massive international response gradually turned the tide. the fight against ebola is still far from over. but health officials are already worrying about the next outbreak, and >> sometimes, the world has got to learn things the hard way. there are gonna be more of these, no matter what we think. more and more new diseases are emerging. we've seen pandemic flu, we've seen sars, we've seen ebola like this, and we are not prepared. ebola was not an exception, ebola is a precedent. >> narrator: officially, more than 10,000 people have died. the true figure is believed to be much higher. >> 37 health workers died at

ebola is not actually contagious.ody fluids flying around you won't get ebola, there has never been an ebola outbreak in the west because of that. this can be spread through sneezing. it's a totally different thing. i guess my question is theoretical. i'm not calling for any kind of quarantine to visitors here, but theoretically if you had a country with a real outbreak of this in central africa, why wouldn't you, in the interest of our population say we aren't taking anybody from that country? >> the only way to protect america was to ban people from coming to the country, that would be appropriate, but we have to look at lesser measures first. >> tucker: why? >> because if there are left lesser measures that allow you to not have a band but still protect america. >> tucker: why would we do that? i'm not arguing for this in this case, but i'm seeing theoretically -- there are a lot of diseases that could come her here. if your only real interest was protecting american citizens, which is not the real interest of our

you mentioned ebola. we've seen what's happened in polio. the political response and the economic response are special but -- essential but the other thing and jon barry mentioned this, is the community response. i know it's extremely different but what we saw in ebola, we learned that the community. response was just as important if not more than others. dan, you mentioned the communication guidelines for c.d.c. we have two minutes left but starting with dan and si -- ciro, talk a little bit about the community, either about your experiences but also how you think you can address the communities to make sure they're supported? a decent response as oeasy toed -- oppose told just fear. >> i jew same -- jim here from the association of state and territorial health officers. c.d.c. works to provide assistance support guidance to officials who have the authority to do this work at the state and communities level. this isn't the breadth of work that happens in a communities level. these are the non-pharmaceutical interventions that could delay or

up next, whatever happened to ebola? first, what some of our possibilities are covering across the country tonight. fox 29 in san antonio with the first of many funerals set to begin this weekend in sutherland springs as some of the 26 victims of sunday's shooting at a texas church will be laid to rest. among them, richard and therese rodriguez and a 16-year-old haley kruger. the pastor of that church where the shooting happens at the church itself will be demolishe demolished. fox 2 in san francisco or commissioners have approved a $52 million expansion project to the port of oakland. they say it will give oakland the largest facility distribution in the west coast and usher in a new era of shipping. this is alive look from fox 5, or associate our affiliate in new york city. for the port authority for the new york and new jersey next year. even better for commuters, no plans to seek a total increase for crossing its bridges and tunnels. welcome news. tonight's look outside of the beltway from "special report." we will b

gfk was partially motivated by the 2014 epidemic of ebola in west africa. we responded to that outbreak with our primary scientific partners that and my age and it went from the start of the phase one clinical trial to the start of the phase three clinical trial in five months rather than the usual five years or even longer it was too late. so we need to be able to react faster. again gfk in many groups are working towards these platforms. in the ideal they would have, continue to have improved surveillance. we would identify a pandemic threat. it would be sequenced, posted to the cloud. research laboratories would download it, create the vaccine mainly in the computer identified as the gene segments needed for that. bring it back to the cloud and it would come back to different manufacturing facilities using that platform. using it every day for a standard vaccines they influenza in many parts of the world. then when the pandemic threatens they interrupt their routine manufacture and start making pandemic vaccines within weeks or months. that's the ideal.

dsk is partially motivated by the 2014 epidemic of ebola in west africa. we responded to that outbreak with our primary scientific partners at nih and went from the start of a phase i clinical trial to the start of the phase three clinical trial in five months rather than the usual five years or longer. but it was too late. we need to be able to act faster. again, many other groups are working for these platforms. in the ideal we would have continued to have or improve our surveillance and we identify pandemic threats and it would be sequenced posted to the cloud, research laboratories would be downloaded and create a vaccine handling a computer identify the gene segments that are needed for that and loaded back up to the cloud and it would come down to different manufacturing facilities that are using a platform and using it every day for standard vaccines, say influenza in many parts of the world. then when the pandemic threatens they interrupt their routine manufacturer and they start making pandemic vaccines within weeks and months or billions of doses

the ebola suits that doctors and nurses were using was a problem. and grant challenges was used for a design from teams all over. had aam in baltimore wedding dress designer on the team. it turns out, she designs things people where, she ended up having some of the most designs that ended up in the final suit that today is changing lives. everyone that worked on that project will tell you that without her citizen-based, to that,d contribution we would not an ended up with the ebola suits is standard practice today and is caring for so many patients. >> senator martinez, can you expand on the role of business. are they doing enough? what more can they do? >> no, i think much more can be done and should be done. i think that the role of corporate foundations can be so significant. whether it is technology, helping education, or whether it is in a more cohesive way, talking about economic development. i have to tell you, this is an issue that is part of our domestic problem today that we have not really thought about, but the issue of puerto rico. it i

see on the own has more than four thousand ebola survivors and the ministry of health and sanitation has set up a specific program for them with free health care but there are challenges during the of all the crisis eleven doctors and almost three hundred health care workers die from the disease and seriously are making an already weak health care system even weaker the own chief medical officer admits there is still a lack of resources to do not have adequate. you know she's. over there. he adds there have been improvements to such as fast response teams and emergency operation centers. the and health care workers are now better trained in i.p.c. or infection prevention and control. we emphasize more on how you choose. what you do what they really value what you want to do you do your hand washing before and after liberia along with guinea and sierra leone are also recovering from accusations of fraud a recent investigation by the red cross says two point four million dollars disappeared during the crisis. but there are signs of hope there are plans to tour in this area just outside

see on the own has more than four thousand ebola survivors and the ministry of health and sanitation has set up a specific program for them with free health care but there are challenges during the apollo crisis unleavened doctors and almost three hundred health care workers die from the disease and serially on making an already weak health care system even weaker syrians chief medical officer admits there is still a lack of resources to add group numbers. you know she's. over there. he says there have been improvements to such as fast response teams and emergency operation centers. the and health care workers are now better trained in i.p.c. or infection prevention and control. we emphasize more on hand hygiene. what do you do what are you what are you going to do you do your hand washing before and after. liberia along with guinea and sierra leone are also recovering from accusations of fraud a recent investigation by the red cross says two point four million dollars disappeared during the crisis. but there are signs of hope there are plans to tour in this area just outside freetow

we've never prepared for it. >> ebola was not an exception.a is a precedent. >> narrator: tonight on frontlin"outbreak." >> frontlinis made possible by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you.

we saw that with ebola. you see it again and again. the cycle of panic during the height of the epidemic. you remember how panicked we were in the middle of the ebola outbreaks. panic, neglect, panic, neglect. we wanted to avoid what happens as people quickly forget about the pandemics after the threat subsides. this year we created something called the pandemic emergency financing facility. for the first time, we have actual pandemic insurance. a $450 million policy that will disperse funds to the poorest countries automatically when an epidemic reefr epidemic reaches a crucial stage. i happened to be an infectious disease doctor and i called my friends during the ebola outbreak and we made the first commitment of $400 million but it was probably ten months to late. this new instrument now will provide $50 million -- as much as $50 million right away out of a cash window, but then, if the epidemic continues, once it reaches a certain size, once is crosses borders and there are a certain number of cases it will automatically disburse a

one of the most brilliant things as ebola was threatening the nation and beepwe looking for a solution it workers ear the relief and doctors were a challenge and we needed a new suit so the -- challenge was had a m in baltimore wedding dress designer on the team. it turns out that because what? what does see do? she designs things people wear. she had some of the most ads and sort of designs that ended up in the changes t of today's lives and everyone who worked on that product that without her real citizen based and real world out on the front without her contributions it that we would not have had ebola suit that is standard practice today and caring for so many parents. martinez can you expand about the role of business? are they doing enough? what more can they did? >> i think were more can be done and should be done. not to denigrate the efforts of so many in business but the role of corporate business at nd large can be so significant. technology, helping education or in a more cohesive way. to tell you it is an issue that is part of our that we have em tphnot talked about but th

most brilliant things to happen as ebola was threatening the nation, it the reliefous that workers and the doctors were female challenges. this was used for design so it came all over the team in baltimore. at aeam in baltimore wedding dress designer on the team. -- what did she do? she designs things that people wear. she had some of the most important designs that ended up in the final suit that today's changing lives, everyone who worked on the project will tell you including the former director of the a few idea. it was real citizen best, a real world out there in the front lines without her conservation to that, we would not have ends up with ebola suit. it is really caring for so many patients. >> can i ask you to expand on the role of business? are they doing enough? i think much more can be done and should be done. --t is not to denigrate yes efforts of so many today. i think the role of corporate foundations and business at large can be so significant. whether it is technology, helping education or talking about economic development, i have to tell you that this is an issue th

we're the first to provide any financial support during the ebola operate. that is not what we do but i happen to be an infectious disease doctor and i called my friends and find out this is the worst and never ever seen so we -- they had ever seen, so we made a commitment of $400 million, but it was probably 10 months too late. this new instrument will provide $50 million, as much as 50 my -- $50 million right away out of the cash window, but if the epidemic continues, once it crosses borders, once there's a certain number of cases, it will automatically disperse as much as $450 million. on a three-year bond, pandemic bond, $450 million, is anyone going to buy this? they could lose. it is called capital at risk. meaning all of the 450 million could absolutely be gone and they would have none of their investment left. it turns out in today's market if you offer the right interest rate, they will buy it. so we sold it on the capital markets at around 8.7% total and now for the first time ever, we have insurance. we can move faster to prevent pandemics and now

oversaw the governments domestic and global response to the two unexpected major health crisis, that ebola epidemic and the spread of the virus. this response included working with other nations to slow the spread on west africa and to identify high-risk individuals entering the united states. through her leadership, sylvia burwell has had a significant impact on the safety and services provided for the well-being of americans all ages, abilities and socioeconomic backgrounds. perhaps the work that was closest to home for her was her implementation of the early childhood program, headstart's largest revision in 40 years. sylvia burwell had her earlier education beginnings at headstart in west virginia. she cites this program as sparking her love for learning a foundational tool and she has carried that throughout her career in public service. from the university of oxford as a rhodes scholar her work has touched and improved the lives of many in terms of health and, safety and millions of americans. please join me in welcoming president sylvia burwell to the podium. [applause] >> thank you

[sound of sirens] of west africa, the most feared virus on earth. hospitals, one sacrificing ebola patients inside; to keep them out. guys, quickly, please! much worse than all the other because it's that contagious, and it's that deadly. all you really need. [dramatic rhythmic music]

you can still see the ebola cases left over from the intense shooting. burnt out school, empty boxes of ammunition, that is all that is left. he told us there were at least 60 attackers armed with machine—guns and rocket propelled grenade. the fighting lasted over two hours. when it was over, he said he saw the bodies of three american soldiers slumped near their vehicle. all three were stripped of their uniforms. but it would be two days before children from the village discovered the fourth body of army sergeant la david johnson about half a mile away. it is still not clear howjohnson got separated from the rest. this soldier would only talk of reconcile identity. he had been stripped of his uniform, he told us. his hands were tied and they had shot him in the head. the pentagon would not comment. there is still some confusion over why this american team had their mission extended and what exactly their assignment was. but either way, it meant they camped out overnight in dangerous territory, and that might have alerted the extremist to where they were

we led the effort to stop the ebola in its tracks and prevent that million people from dying over fourths, and a mere fraction died because we went over there and build health care capacity and made the difference. i could go on and on, giving you examples of what we do where we are indispensable. i know teddy would summon us to this task with a sense of urgency right now, and i think you do, too. we have to break out of this ball -- balkanized, paralyzed politics which have divided us into this patchwork of narrow interests and they have driven the concept of national good far from the national dialogue altogether. issue andue after during consensus, which did exist, has been frayed. and it's been shredded by a pretty raw lust for power. in donald trump's america, silence is complicity. century,n the 21st where choices and consequences come at us so much faster, the price of inaction is not that we just sort of standstill -- stand still. the price of inaction is that we are going to stay behind and see the best policy -- possibilities of the future to others who are more disciplined a

. >> the red cross says that at least $6 million meant to fight the ebola outbreak was stolen through fraud. they started an investigation of the $124 million collected. up to $2 million disappeared from likely red cross in sierra leo leone. >> the trump administration is going ahead with a law from the obama wear that calories be posted on restaurant menus. >> whether or not this rule was going through was up in the air for months. earlier this year the administration delayed the compliance date and however this morning the fda says it would go into effect next may. pizza chains and grocery associations and business groups fought requirements to post calorie counts for years saying it would be difficult to comply with. they have minor considerations but scott got says is one that wants to know that calorie counts is one of the biggest weapons against the obesity epidemic >>> and people got as much relief as they got through tylenol as they did with opioids and pain killers. for treating short-term main and is prescribed in one-third of er visits. >>> a flu shot protects you against t

all four who went to emery survived an ebola infection. that type of partnership is what we're going to have to do for the -- >> senator, the cdc and its leadership and career staff are the envy of the world and i share that view. >> and they have saved a lot of lives. >> amen. >> and prevents so many tragedies from happening it's just unbelievable. >> have indeed. >> last, this may seem to be a silly question, i was a salesman all my life, was on a commission income all my life. the medical loss ratio in the affordable care act includes the cost of a sales commission as part of the loss ratio formula, which in effect put most people who sold health insurance to individuals who bought in the market out of business. because the commission they would be paid, although very mode modest, would throw it over the 85% cost ratio. most americans today would look to try and find a way to get insurance. there's no financial security for anybody to offer it to them because they're priced out. senator coons of delaware and i have introduced legislatio

you would need to make sure it is built into a program for public health emergencies like zika, ebola, or the countermeasures development programs. sen. cassidy: this may be something to encourage that you monitor. i, if i say white house, they think pennsylvania avenue, sheldon and i put forward something for health i.t. my physician colleagues are retiring at age 55 because they are sick of electronic medical records and the dampening on their ability to interact as well as their productivity. includedh i.t. act was , supposedly it is progressing well, any thoughts about that and how we can ensure that health i.t. becomes an enabler of patient physician relationships? mr. azar: i need to be careful here because my father may jump to the table and start telling you about all the problems you are talking about. i think when secretary leavitt was secretary and we went down the journey on health i.t., he was adamant. electrification of health records without interoperability is not useful. that is just moving files to a different place. i'm afraid we've done a bit of that. we've electri

that man deals with facts like most people deal with the ebola.e been hundreds who have been charged in federal courts, the rates of successful prosecution is extremely high. i'm not aware of any of those cases when they were held in court and the speed is vastly faster than what happened in guantanamo bay. if you don't believe it, google it. look at the contrast with what happens at guantanamo bay, which the president thinks is just and fast. very few prosecutions, less than 20, they take forever, they're extremely expensive. so if the president bother today read a fact brch he put out a tweet. he might realize the answer is throe them in federal prison and the federal prosecutors will get them there, the they have are gate. >> when you hear the president utter those words, what's your reaction. >> phil was spot on right. the men and woman that work for president trump himself. the idea that guantanamo bay is a better a option. you don't have to object to guantanamo bay in general to think it's just an absurd idea in this specific case. we've see

the money was meant to fight the deadly ebola virus. an investigation found the missing money was part of $124 million donated over two years. it was to fight the epidemic in africa. it was blamed on fraud, including collusion between staff members and workers in sierra leone. they plan to do a deeper audit. >>> millions of dollars coming to the east bay. representative barbara lee says six cities in alameda county will receive grant money for the housing crisis. oakland, alameda, san leandro, albany, emeryville and piedmont receiving money. >>> the annual dream force conference by sales force kicks off this morning. they were closing streets last night. they expect more than 170,000 people to attend and 10 million will watch online. a lot of big name guests will be in town including former first lady, michelle obama, ashton kutcher and rapper will i am. >> sounds like a fun event. >> always a big one. 5:25 right now. >>> buyers appear more set than ever to not go anywhere when it comes to holiday shopping. >> at least not outside of th

. >> fred: it cleans the streets of ebola. >> anthony: the cold? >> fred: yeah. >> david: yeah.f out of the city, for sure. >> anthony: fred morin and david mcmillan. restaurateurs, chefs at the legendary joe beef, bon vivants, raconteurs, historians of their beloved great white north. princes of hospitality. and what do men like this do for fun when the rivers turn to ice three-feet thick? when testicles shrink and most of us scurry for warmth and shelter? if they were like so many other canadians, they would go ice fishing on the st. lawrence river. >> david: the cabin fever induces in the québécois family. because we are confined, perhaps, to spend so much time indoors, a lot of the families love to do, you know, activities together like this. go to the cottage. go ice fishing. you know, it, like, gets you out of the house. and it's very much a family thing. >> anthony: like many of their ilk, they'd seek one of the temporary small towns of sled-borne cabins, drill a hole in the ice, and wait. but these are not normal men. so is quebec better than the rest of canada? >> fred:

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. >> tucker: it's a germ in the body politic like ebola.k, lucky you were writing about the art at the time. he joins us now. what do you -- i hate to agree with mika but maybe she was on to something, secretary clinton should stop talking about this stuff. >> i think so. this was their 25th anniversary gala of the great clinton victory of 1992. and there were the two of them there with james carville. you have to bet a lot of big shot democrats were invited to that, who are no-shows. to go back to what tammy was talking about, the democrats, are like this on everything. they weren't worried about the russians during the cold war 25 years after it ends they're worried about the russians. they weren't worried about bill clinton's behavior in the white house, now they say he should have resigned over monica lewinsky. the "new york times" ran a piece a couple of days ago called "i believe juanita." i wrote my "i believe juanita" piece, i'm going to remember the exact date, february 25, 1999, in the national post for canada. i was right 18 1/2

the money was meant to fight the deadly ebola virus. a recent internal investigation found the missing money was part of $124 million donated over two years to fight the deadly epidemic in africa. the lost money is blamed on fraud, including, rather, likely collusion between staff members and workers at a bank in sierra lenoe. the red cross plans to do a deeper audit. >> once recreational marijuana becomes legal on january 21st, it won't come cheap. taxes and fees are ex-pecked to drive up price. a small bag costs up to $35. once legal, experts say it could cost $50 to $60. for high-end marijuana is expected to climb 60%. medical marijuana is also expected to rise but not as steeply. some fear those high prices will keep some people in the black market. >>> coming up, we're tracking another round of rain that is about to hit the bay area. when does it arrive, kari? >> it looks like it gets here midweek. we're enjoying some dry weather and looking at some sunshine. stays cool and breezy with a mix of sun and clouds. we will talk about th

behold what of history -- ebola of history would not have happened. of to mention the millions lives that were killed after 1967. it is a shame, 14,000 u.s. soldiers who died in 1967 had public opinion taken seriously by johnson. this work that have been over and history could have been change. remember 1967 for that. and two are going to talk about the context of the history and purchase of nation of the antiwar movement that could have make it a lot different. the second number is 50. here we are 50 years later and love is on the center of the cover. this is a cultural change. if you listen to npr they said if you remember this you were not there. assume that means too much drinking, drugs or sex did that we are 70 years old i think i have a different appreciation for memory. there is a effort right now, tries to getseries us to rethink the war or put it behind us. at all.is not over united states still has responsibility in southeast asia. they still have responsibility for unexploded devices in indochina. are still reparations responsibility for t

had infected west africa with ebola and that it was the u.s. government's job.t's a ridiculous claim and to make the parallel between rt and cnn is absurd but you next from the kremlin. you expect the kremlin where vladimir putin murders journalists, murders dissidents and doesn't have a free press to engage in this sort of misinformation and disinformation. what you don't expect is to see both putin and trump behave attacking towards media on the same day. >> yes. and you're alluding to president trump calling cnn international as not having truth, that also happening within the last 24 hou hours. >> exactly, you have messaging that lines up between the white house and the kremlin which should not happen when they're both attacking freedom of the press. american democracy is found on the basis of informed consent of the governed, as all democracy is, and you feed to have the press. in order do that you need to be able to believe the free press is critical to democracy and that's not a value shared by the president of the united states currently. >> brian klaas

cycles panicked during the height of the epidemic and you know how kenneth we were in the middle of the ebola outbreak, and then neglect. we wanted to avoid that process and avoid what happens as people quickly forget about these pandemics after the threat subsides. we took a large step in breaking that cycle and we created something called the pandemic emergency financing facility. for the first time, we have actual pandemic insurance. policy that will disperse funds to the poorest countries automatically when the epidemic reaches a crucial stage. we were the first to provide any financial support during the outbreak. i heard that this was the worst thing they had ever seen, so we may be first amendment of $400 million but it was 10 months too late. will providerument $50 million right away, out of a cash window. if the epidemic continues, once it reaches a certain size and it willborders, automatically disperse as much as $450 million. we found that on a three-year thought is anyone going to buy this because they could lose -- it is called capital at risk. all the money could absolutely be

. >> tucker: a germ in the body politics like ebola.ark steyn is another person who may have derailed the clintons back in '92. who was writing about the arts at the time. he joins us now. i hate to agree with mika brzezinski, but maybe she was onto something when she said that mrs. clinton should stop talking about the stuff. >> i think so. this was the 25th anniversary gala of the great clinton victory in 1992, and there were the two of them there with james carville, and you have to bet that there were a lot of big shot democrats who are invited to that who are no-shows. to go back to what tammy was talking about, the democrats are like this on everything. they weren't worried about the russians during the cold war. 25 years after it ends, they are worried about the russians. they weren't worried about bill clinton's behavior when was in the white house. 25 years later, senators are now saying he should have resigned over monica lewinsky. "the new york times" ran a piece a couple of days ago called i believe juanita. i wrote my piece

the last two decades we've seen liberia going through different crisis from two civil wars to the ebola crisis that hit the country very hard to the economic downturn in liberia as well the poverty rate is very high and a lot of people angry a lot of people are expecting the elections that was all that was held on october tenth will be clean. sharing a new government to take care of the new the problems that seen all over liberia so basically what is happening now a lot of people angry that is and that is the fear that perhaps if anything the next round of the election and this election is suspended probably will see some angry taking to the streets and that's what the government here is trying to avoid at all cost now whatever happens during monday's judgment by the supreme court then definitely the election runoff between the two top leaders of the elections will not because simply because a lot of time has been lost way of distribution of election material was suspended training of election officials was also suspended so the election commission here will need more time to do all thi

they face existential threat from the ebola virus and the american people lent a helping hand by giving them temporary protective status. i have no doubt that authorizing national security -- nationals from those west african countries to enter the united states saved lives. no doubt whatsoever. mr. speaker, we must not abandon our national character to the cynical call of america first. the t.p.s. designation does not weaken us. it strengthens us by showing the world that the united states is morally worthy of its status as a superpower. rolling back the t.p.s. program is bad policy, it's bad politics, and it's immoral. the united states turns its back on those in need -- if the united states turns its back on hose in need, what have we the people become? and with that, mr. speaker, i yield back to the gentlelady islands.virgin ms. plaskett: thank you so much for that -- the information that you shared with us. but more particularly, for causing us to reflect on who we are as americans and what we stand for. and reminding this congress and this house how we have a responsibility to tho

make sure it's built into a development response program for public health emergencies like zika, ebola, or frankly as we have the countermeasures. >> levy also say this may just be something encourages your monitor sheldon whitehouse and i have i like to say sheldon, if i say white house they think 1300 pennsylvania avenue. in the cure is built with report something for health i.t. my physician colleagues are retiring at age 55 55 because they're just sick of electronic medical records and the dampening that his ban on their ability to interact as well as their productivity. in the 21st century cures the health i.t. act was included that gave some directives supposedlyly progressing well bt nonetheless trust but verify. any thoughts about that and how we can ensure that health i.t. becomes an enabler of patient physician relationships as opposed to implement? >> i need to be careful because my father may jump to the table and start telling about all the problems of exactly the problem you're talking about. >> i'm with you. >> i think that when secretary leavitt was secretary and we wen