i was living in manhattan in the early 80s and my roommate was dating john meriwether, long-term capitals long-term capital management, well before the infamous -- what you wrote about, my old roommate was kicking dinner, john and i used to sit in the living room and play number games, try to figure out the least amount of gases to figure out what is in each other's heads. i also -- >> guest: ruining a date. that is what you were doing. >> caller: i also wonder if that was the very beginning of john's rise and downfall, vegetable game in the living room. it was a wedding culture. i would love to hear more about that. are people born that way? by acquaintance or whatever? >> guest: john meriwether was my boss at solomon brothers. i worked for the sales arm, his was of historic interest because of what they did, the proprietary trading arm and if you go back a decade earlier none of the partnerships had this operation in that scope, they were making these enormous bets, so big that by 1989-1990, more than 100% of the firm's profits were from what was overseen by john meriwether, and 800 pr

but you didn't do what john meriwether did for a living unless you really like to gamble.al with the debts they made. in the end, he was so successful that he becomes almost too big for his own firm and they go and create long-term capital management in a make debts that almost bring down the global financial system. but you only get to that place if you're unbelievably successful for a long time. >> host: [inaudible] blindside >> guest: sandra bullock captures so well that one man's has been saw the movie for the first time he went gasp, that's exactly what he said, my god, i could just handle one. there were two of them. it was shocking to me. it was like seeing one of my characters end up on the screen. i was even more impressed than i maybe should have even been. i saw that brad pitt captures billy beane and all kinds of interesting ways. christian bale captures michael berry in all kinds of interesting ways. steve correll captures steve eiseman in all kinds and the imitation, the impressions they do back up and say the movie business seems like kind of a nonsense busi