john kasich, the republican governor of ohio -- i hate to keep quoting kasich but he agreed.d drop out. clearly he should drop out. >> the other is your colleague, senator menendez in new jersey, being tried on corruption charges, 12 counts, that jury is deadlocked. if convicted, do you think he should resign? >> i think that he will appeal if he's convicted. i don't really want to do what-ifs about him because i don't know what this jury is going to do. i'll be very willing to answer it after he's either exonerated or convicted, and we can have that discussion. >> all right, senator sherrod brown of ohio, thanks for joining us. >> always, thanks. >>> that's "all in" for this evening. "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. >> thank you, my friend, appreciate it. >>> we have an exclusive interview tonight that i'm really looking forward to. a national security and law enforcement veteran who has not spoken publicly since he left the trump administration for a very interesting reason. he is going to be speaking out for the first time tonight. this is his first interview sin

governor kasich talked about the origins of modern day partisan shirp. here's a brief look. >> to some degree the politics today is a manifestation of the politics that's been brewing for a long time. >> exactly. >> i mean, i remember the bourque hearings. i remember you were on the committee you saw how raw cuss and how they were and we went through an impeachment and then we went through, you know, the republican revolution and we saw jim wright being driven out and foley be driven out and then we saw the republicans win the house the first time in 40 years and the democrats kind of said, no you never won. we're going to just fight you. it's really a pox on both houses and you are right about that guy that yelled at the president, you lie, and here's the ironic thing the next day put out a fund-raising letter to raise money. the system itself has been breaking down because of base politics. >>> and that was just part of a conversation with former vice president joe biden and ohio governor john kasich on how to deal with partisanship in the trump era ho

and i also sat down with ohio's republican governor john kasich.e refused to endorse donald trump in 2016. where does he stand today? our conversation began with the allegations rocking the alabama senate race. governor, thanks for joining us today. i want to start with -- with roy moore. in alabama. you have said the actions described make him unfit for office. so you believe those accusers? >> it's just really a matter of with whether he ought to be -- he ought to be the candidate, the standard-bearer for the republican party. i just think he shouldn't be. i hope that the people of alabama, the party officials will look at it again and -- and -- but this is not about obama or left wing. i just don't believe that it is. i'm saddened by it. i mean, i'm the father of two twin daughters. and just think it's inappropriate. i would like it if he stepped aside. >> you also tweeted that the gop must not support him. >> i don't think they should. as mitt romney said, he said, look. we're not talking about a criminal conviction. we're talking about whether

tonight on c-span, former vice president joe biden and ohio governor john kasich on how to deal with bipartisanship in the trump era. here is a conversation with a prime minister in europe about president trump. >> i was recently with one prime minister in europe. i went over to speak at a conference. and he wanted to see me. and so i thought it was a courtesy call. and i thought it was going to last ten minutes. it lasted two and a half hours. at one point this prime minister said, and did you see what he did? we're sitting in the same side of a concerns table, as close as you and i are. he stood up. he said, he took the president of montenegro, shoved him aside, stuck his chest out and his chin. all i could think of was el duche. not a joke. not a joke. that's what people are thinking. that's what people are thinking. violating the norms of personal conduct generates more anxiety and fear than any policy prescription that this president has enunciated. >> that was just part of a conversation with former vice president joe biden and ohio governor john kasich on how to deal with part

you showed that clip from john kasich.s a very important conservative republican, and he still is, but because the party has gone so off the edge he looks like a liberal statesman now. john kasich is not a liberal. >> no. >> but the party is in a very strange place and the most disturbing thing is there were people actually saying better going to a 14-year-old. that is how tribal our politics has become. that should scare everybody. >> people like pat toomey. he considered jennifer to be an ordinary republican. chuck todd is trying to ask him about the allegations against roy moore and here is what happened. take a listen. >> >> reporter: you've said 40-year-old accusation twice. why does that matter? >> it matters because it just raises the question about the credibility. i have said i don't find the denial terribly credible, but when someone waits 40 years before they make an ak cue si sayings, there seems to be enough there. >> larry craig had to resign. >> right. >> because he touched another man's foot in a bathroom a

. >> tuesday night on c-span, former vice president joe biden and ohio governor john kasich talk about bipartisanship in the trump era. the discussion is at the biden at the university of delaware at 8:00 eastern. here is a preview. >> to some degree, the politics today is a manifestation of the politics that have been brewing a long time. the bork remember hearings. i remember you were on the committee. you saw how raucous they were and we went through an impeachment and the republican revolution and saw jim right be driven out. we saw the republicans when -- when thee first house for the first time in 40 years and the democrats say, no, you never won. we are just going to fight you. it is a pox on both houses. you are right about the guy who yelled at the president, you lie. the next day, put out a fundraising letter to raise money off of it. the system itself has been breaking down because of base politics. former vice president joe biden and ohio governor john kasich at the university of delaware's biden institute. that is at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. announced totrump key west

you spoke with the governor of ohio, john kasich, as well as voters in both ohio and pennsylvania. are they following this moore story? what do they have to say about it? >> they seem to be definitely following the moore story. they frankly tepid -- tend to follow what roy moore says. in some cases. the trump voters will say, look, if he did this, it is bad. but we don't know whether he did this. there were some who were more definitive about it, saying he should go. i think, generally, you hear, you know, we don't know. and it was 40 years ago. sort of the things that roy moore was saying. that if, if he did that. and i don't know really how you take this further. you've got four women on the record who "the washington post" sought out. they didn't come to "the washington post." and 30 others who they talked to. i don't really know what those voters are waiting for. >> president trump says he believes putin's sincerity and the intelligence community on russian interference. can he have it both ways? >> kind of a contradiction there, isn't it? can he have it both ways? he said one

. >> john kasich's statement, i long have opposed roy moore. the actions described make him unfit for office. the gop must not support him. he should step aside but, jennifer, it doesn't seem like the republican party has been listening much to john kasich. the report tonight indicating that the govern nor of alabama is thinking about changing the date of the election that seems to be within the governor's legal powers pushing it further down the road so that they could get rid of roy moore, install another republican candidate. >> i guess she doesn't believe him either, right? why would she need to move the election? this is the natural, logical progression of a bunch of tribalists who subsume everything, decency, a child's life to the cause of the party. to getting that marginal tax rate below 39.6%. for that it's worth putting roy moore in the senate. so this is the state of affairs. and it doesn't surprise me at all. if they're willing to take donald trump after the "access hollywood," after he used racist language of immigrants, a ban of p

governor kasich talked about the origins ofern day partisanship. here's a brief look at what you'll see. >> to some degree, the politics today is a manifestation of the politics that's been brewing for a long time. i mean, i remember the bork heari hearings. i remember you were on the committee, you saw how raucous, how they were. then we went through an impeachment, and then we went through the republican revolution, and we saw jim wright be driven out and foley be driven oun. then we saw the republicans win the house for the first time in 40 years. and the democrats kind of said no, you never won. we're just going to fight you. it's really a pox on both houses. and you are right about that guy that yelled at the president, you lie, and here's the ironic thing. the next day, he put out a fund-raising letter, raised money off of it. so the system itself has been breaking down because of base politics. >> that was part of a conversation with former vice president joe biden and ohio governor john kasich on how to deal with partisanship in the trump e

ohio governor john kasich discuss the need for bipartisanship in the trump era. the discussion took place at the biden institute at the university of delaware. here is mister biden talking about a conversation he had about donald trump. >> i was recently with one prime minister in europe, i went to speak at a conference and he wanted to see me so i thought it was a courtesy call. i thought it would last 10 minutes. it lasted 21/2 hours and at one point this prime minister said, did you see what he did? sitting the same side of a conference table as close as you and i are, he stood up and said took the president of montagnais go and shoved him aside and stuck his chest out at his chin was all i could of was il duce. not a joke. not a joke. that is what people are thinking. that is what people are thinking. violating the norms of personal conduct generates more anxiety and fear is an any policy prescription this president has enunciated. >> a day after returning from the 12 day journey to asia donald trump gave an update on his trip, the president visited japan, so

tonight on c-span, former vice president joe biden and ohio governor, john kasich, on how to deal with partisanship in the trump era. here's a portion where mr. biden describes a conversation with one prime minister in europe about president trump. >> but i was recently with one prime minister in europe. i went over to speak at a conference. and he wanted to see me. and so i thought it was a courtesy call. and i thought it was going to last ten minutes. it lasted two-and-a-half hours. and at one point, this prime minister said, and did you see what he did? we're sitting in the same side of a conference table, as close as you and i are. and he said, he stood up, and he said, he took the president and shoved him aside, stuck his chest out, and his chin, and all i could think of was, el douche. not a joke. not a joke. that's what people are thinking. that's what people are thinking. violating the norms of personal conduct. generates more anxiety and fear than any policy prescription that this president has enunciated. >> and that was just part of a conversation with former vice president,

on c-span, former vice president joe biden and ohio governor john kasich is that deal of research and in the trump area -- partisanship in the trump era. >> to some degree, the politics of the day is a manifestation of the politics that have been run for a long time. you were on the committee and you saw how raucous and how they were. we went through an impeachment and then we went through the republican revolution and we saw jim wright be driven out and foley be driven out. we saw the republicans when the house for the first time in 40 years. democrats said no, you never won, we're going to just buy you. it's really a pox on both houses. you were right about the guy that yelled at the president you like, the next day, he put out a fundraising letter to raise money off of it. itself is breaking down because of his politics. >> that discussion takes place of the university of delaware. see the entire program tonight starting at 8:00 eastern. angst giving on c-span, here are some of the highlights. the liberty medal ceremony honoring senator john mccain at the national constitution cent

governor kasich has been a good partner in terms of trying to find democrats and republicans to speakhy a balanced approach to reforming health care, a balanced approach to reforming the tax care system -- how it makes sense. i will look at any democratic candidate in any state that has potential. we will look at closely and try to support it. scarlet: what is the takeaway for you when you look at the gubernatorial victories in washington and virginia and new jersey? at the state level, democrats did fairly well this month. how do democrats, how did democrats carry the momentum into the next election cycle? governor hickenlooper: i think there is a lot of emotional momentum behind the democrats right now and i think it was interesting to see that in virginia the candidates up and down the tickets, that were successful, were grounded people. they were balanced. the new governor of virginia is a remarkably talented, i think he will be a great governor. he brings balance. he is pro-business, but at the same time he holds businesses to the highest standards. that is what a want -- is what

it was john kasich in ohio. he took it and said medicaid is how i am fixing a huge problem in my state, the opioid crisis. he is a strong proponent of a job at being the best social program, but is also cognizant that if you can't get a job because you can't pass a drug test, those are just words. hit. his advocacy was critical. i firmly believe, if we had, over the past couple of years been more flexible in how certain's dates wanted to approach medicaid expansion, keep in mind we have 31 states who have done it and another 20 including d.c. and put maine aside for a second who haven't, if we had gotten more states who had done the expansion, i'm not sure we would be having the same debate over the past year. i know there's a heated debate on things like work requirements and health savings accounts and other approaches, but what i say to folks is don't have that debate in an ivory tower. you have to have that debate where it matters where that matters is that the state house. think about indiana and arkansa ar

john kasich a good person? george pataki, newt gingrich, george bush, arnold schwarzenegger, judge clarence thomas? which of those are not good people? >> over a period of years, it became unfashionable, unpopular, and people were seen, and it was seen as such that good people didn't use marijuana. that was the context of that statement. >> and while sessions may not be switching his position on pot any time soon, americans are getting out ahead of him with some 64% of americans supporting legalizing marijuana for recreational use. that's according to an october gallup poll. now 24/7 wall street has crunched some numbers saying these 15 states are likely to be next in legalizing cannabis. among the 15, connecticut, new york, illinois, new hampshire. even arizona and montana. >>> it is wednesday. let's get a check of our midweek weather with bill karins. how are we looking, bill? >> all the problems are on the west coast. the big storm continues from yesterday and the day before. this is the part two of our big

ohio governor john kasich, who declined to be interviewed for this story, has been deliberately low key. >> if you go out and you try to buy a deal, you try to buy a company with these big to do it, i don't think youu should do it. have a shot.officials s three cities, one once known as the mistake on a lake, trying to pull off a miracle. i'm scott cohn in cleveland. >>> blackberry is reportedly in talks to provide its software to jaguar land rover. "the wall street journal" says blackberry is in advanced conversations with jaguar to put its software in next generation autonomous and electric vehicles. blackberry's self-driving where are is already in the cars of several automakers. blackberry's shares rose 2% to $10.95. >>> the reported merger between cvs and aetna could happen before the end of this year. reuters says the companies are in the process of finalizing terms and are aiming to announce a more than $70 billion deal as early as december. cvs shares were off a particular to $69.25. aetna shares rose 3% to $176.99. >>> the operator of outback steak house said the string of rece

the person who landed on the of their side was john kasich.o we assembled a vote so those wanted to strip out the most divisive part which is the assault weapon ban. add to come behind to build up political pressure to have that base and so it is also upon those elected leaders but also the citizens to listen to other people. >> i want to ask to questions there has spent a lot of news coverage at the dnc but there was an agreement on the hillary clinton campaign to provide the dnc with the requirement with the senior personnel divisions to seek approval from the clinton campaign. during the democratic primary and to ask whether that decision was appropriate to violate the neutrality but recently appointed the at large members for the delegates. [laughter] so several individuals so those other corporate interests with similar type of work. and with corporate lobbyist as part of the leadership. >> as a former lobbyist there are good and bad. actually clinton told the so it is a very good analysis and how you make change. and how policy making it

tonight, former vice president joe biden and ohio governor john kasich talk about bipartisanship in the trump zero. that starts at 8:00 p.m. eastern. >> next, a look at a new government report on u.s. retirement savings rates from washington journal. this is 30 minutes. it is time for our weekly money segment and this week, we take a look at a new report on how americans are doing in saving for retirement from the government accountability office. the person behind this report, charles jeszeck, joins us now. good morning. what is the government accountability office? guest: we are the nonpartisan works forive arm that committees of congress, majority leader ryan, minority leader pelosi, mitch mcconnell, chuck schumer, part of the administration. we respond to request for information from congressional committees as well as legislative mandates. sometimes a piece of legislation , we will ask to look at a particular issue. host: so if i understand it correctly you get those from , members of government, but it is the organization taking a look at retirement from the united states? guest:

tonight, former vice president joe biden and ohio governor john kasich talk about bipartisanship in the trump zero. that starts at 8:00 p.m. eastern. >> next, a look at a new government report on u.s. retirement savings rates from washington journal. this is 30 minutes. it is time for our weekly money segment and this week, we take a look at a new report on how americans are doing in saving for retirement from the government accountability office. the person behind this report, charles jeszeck, joins us now. good morning.

that was just part of a conversation with former vice president joe biden and ohio governor john kasich on how to deal with partisanship. see the entire event tonight starting at 8:00 eastern on c-span. >>> thanksgiving day on c-span. here are some of the highlights. at 11:30 a.m. eastern, the liberty medal ceremony honoring senator john mccain at the national constitution center in philadelphia. at 1:00 p.m., former secretary of state john kerry, receiving a lifetime achievement award at the edward m. kennedy institute in boston. and at 2:45 p.m., "new york times" columnist discuss character. >>> on c-span2, the southern festival of books in nashville. and 2:30. a documentary on muhammad ali. at 3:10, authors discuss the middle class and politics. and at 4:50 p.m., eric erickson discusses before you wake, life lessons from a father and his children. on c-span3, at 9:50 a.m. eastern on the presidency, the life and times of teddy roosevelt. at 11 a.m., native americans and trade in 19th century california. then at 2:55 from the national archives a look at the first motion picture unit's

it has been john kasich in ohio. said medicaid is how i am fixing a huge problem in my state, the appeal would crisis.- the opioid he is a strong proponent of a job being the best social program. he is also cognizant that if you cannot get a job because you cannot pass a drug test, those are just words. his advocacy was critical. had,mly believe that if we over the past couple of years, been more flexible in how certain states wanted to approach a possible medicaid thatsion, keep in mind right now we have 31 states you have done it and another 20, including d.c., let's put maine aside for a second, who have not. if we had gotten more states who have done the expansion, i am not sure we would've been having the same debate on the hill over the past year. there is a heated debate on things like work requirements and health savings accounts and other types of approaches. do notsay to folks is have that debate in an ivory tower. you have to have that debate where it matters -- at the state capital. think about indiana, t

networks. >> former democratic vice president joe biden sat down with republican ohio governor john kasichut the universityat of delaware political center for communication, looking at alternative ways to approach government. [applause] vice president biden: thank you. john, welcome to my campus. i was not a graduate here, two thirds of my staff and ohio state where he went, i just wanted to see a really beautiful campus here. john, because of the doctor and the faculty here, they have been kind enough to give me a platform here to work with, in this case, the center for political communication. and to

>> tonight on our companion network c-span, former vice president joe biden and our governor john kasichbut to some degree the politics today is a manifestation of the politics that's been brewing for a long time. i mean, i remember the board hearing spear i remember you on the committee turkey file raucous and how they were. and then we went through an impeachment and then we went through, you know, the republican revolution and we saw jim wright driven out and be fully driven out. and then we saw the republicans when the house for the first time in 40 years, and democrats kind of said no, you never one. we're going to just bite you. it's really a proximal houses the you write about the guy who light of the present july. next they put out a fundraising letter to raise money off of it. so the system itself has been breaking down because of base politics. >> but i was recently with one prime minister in europe. i went over to speak at a conference and you wanted to see me, and so i thought it was a courtesy call. and i thought it would last ten minutes. it lasted two and half hours. 1. th

i waited all my life for a man who knows how to dance with -- i can't imagine john kasich or jeb bushcing with them and it's a great tune dancing with the pals. [laughter] is like a big show over there. dancing with them is a great show. greg: what happens if you loose? >> that is not a good. greg: there is a stadium for that. >> and in the semi final they'll chop one of your fingers off and that makes it difficult. greg: is the country better or worse or the same? >> i always do research before i join you here and i checked and everything that trump has done including the tweets is the exact same as the first year of hitler in 1937. [laughter] >> you know he was joking. >> twitter do not exist in 1937 but think about that. when i was walking that montage he was making me like him. this guy has all the money in the world, all the power and could do whatever he wants and he is subjected himself to sitting in a desk with halloween candy and these kids and he call that one kid that accidentally and then he's dancing with saudi princes and he can do anything he wants and he wants to do th