my grandfathers name is levi elma. levi elim have what i consider the first crossing in our family, in her native american family. he was assigned to the carlisle indian industrial school in 1885. he was to be there five years. it didn't last but one year, and he was discharged, , and i'm reading from the official discharge document of the carlisle indian school. june 23, 1886, he was assigned to become a brickyard worker. this is his first contact with non-indian education. and when the discharged him, there's a discharge notice here and there there's a word in th, the reason for discharge is the word worthless. my grandfather was deemed worthless. that's the first crossing. his first encounter with the non-indian counterpart. i go forward some 30 years to my mothers encounter with the same educational institutions, not at carlisle but at the bethany indian mission which is a school in wisconsin in wittenberg, used to be in wittenberg, in 1921 at the age of four years old she was taken from her parents to that school.