mr. cissna: no. what i'm saying is that if you have a system that doesn't select at all, or is barely selecting anybody, we don't know what we're going to get. it's better if we take an active, affirmative role in our immigration process and establish criteria that correspondents to things that we want to see in our immigration pool. reporter: data shows that immigrants actually commit fewer crimes than native-born americans. other than these isolated incidents, is there any data behind this plan? mr. cissna: i don't know that i agree with your first point. i don't know where that data came from. but i can't comment any further. reporter: incarceration rates would be exun example. mr. cissna: that's a bigger debate that i don't know that we have time for here. based on my questioning the validity of the premise of your question, i don't know that i want to engage in that dialogue at this time. reporter: does this administration believe him that grants are more dangerous than u.s. citizens? -- that im

mr. cissna. i want to ask a question about what you're suggesting. is it your belief that the only changes that can be done to the immigration system are ones that emanate from congress? are there things that the president can do by executive action to change the process for either chain migration or the visa lottery? >> well, that's something that we're looking at right now in uscis, my agency that administers these visa programs. there are some things that we could do. there's some things that the president has directed us to do by executive order in particular with the temporary visa categories. we're talking about green cards. but yes, a lot of things we can do and we're going to do to increase protections of american workers. in the green card domain, it's harder. congress has kind of occupied that field a little more densely than in the temporary visa area. there could be. there could be some things that we can do to clarify how these categories are administered. yes. sir? >> there's so much talk about the daca legislation right now. do you thi