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well, he started the nfl national anthem protest and now the new yorker is painting collin kaepernickel bennett along martin luther king jr. the says if martin luther king were alive today he -- this comes as we learn ratings for sunday's four nfl games tanked by an average of 13% this week. i know you guys spent some time talking about that on the show earlier this morning but yikes. steve: nfl ratings down. i have got to imagine the ratings for last night's college championship are through the roof with that overtime. jillian: i would bet so as well. i'm sure a lot of people fell asleep. that was late. steve: it was late. ainsley: i fell asleep and georgia was winning. woke up and alabama had won in overtime. jillian: and you are like what happened? brian: they never led the entire game. 19 minutes before the top of the hour. ainsley: turning now to extreme weather. so cold in maine people are ice skating on the beach. steve: look at that. brian: this man taking advantage of the bone chilling temperatures in new england turning the sand into own personal rink. steve: will when will

collin kaepernick, the reason i don't agree with him, he had cops depicted as bigs on his socks.hat to me is like i don't agree with you, right there. >> i think a lot of folks are saying, you can have the conversation, can voice opinion that you have with regard to whether it's police brutality, whatever. but why not have them before the game, after the game, why specifically doesn't have to be -- does it have to be during the national anthem, offends a lot of americans. >> i think right now i brought up two very perfect storm scenarios. a group of americans who think that this is offensive to the military. then we've seen military members come out and say i fought for their right to do this. if they choose to kneel, they should kneel. i agree with nbc's decision f is happening in realtime, show it. now, do i think there should be a discussion around this on both sides of the spectrum, yes, i think there should be a healthy debate. if these athletes want to use their platform and their professional careers to advocate for these things they believe in, go for it. and i think that

just this year alone collin kaepernick has the 17th most popular jersey in the nfl and only 3% of those they do not watch the nfl attributed that to the protest when it comes to the national anthem. so, for me, i think that there may be some evidence to say what the media is doing may impact our children, but the long haul is this, civil rights movements in our country have never been popular. at the time that martin luther king was alive, 67% of americans did not like him. and those are the same people who are putting up quotes a few days ago for his holiday. so even though this may be the fad, i do not see a correlation here. >> martha: it's interesting. when you look at the characters really gaining a lot of the traction, amy, who do we have? we have doc mcstuffen which we discovered today because my kids are tooled fotoo oldfor this. they are adorable. this may be part of what is influencing these kids, amy. >> martha, i was very disappointed to not see cable news pundit on that list. >> martha: we were all expecting to be at the top of the list. i will tell you. >> what the kids ar

this new yorker cover that features your uncle, martin luther king, kneeling with the likes of collin kaepernickat the football games. what did you think of that? >> you were kind enough, neil, to let me have that conversation with colin first took a knee. and i said at that time, well he has the method down pat, taking a knee. but he's forgetting the message. martin luther king jr. and my dad, a.d. king, both of them taking the knee along with other civil rights leaders there are pictures. when they took the knee it was in prayer, repentance for their own since, for the since offers this, for the nation, forgiving others who had harmed them and asking god to help this nation and to end racism and the injustices against people. without that kind of prayer, when you take the knee, it is just a symbol. when they had martin, uncle m.l. in between the two athletes, taking the knee, i said well i hope you know what he would take the knee for. praying for you, for your concerns, praying for america, he would be praying for president trump. i was concerned they were only catching the method without tak

if collin kaepernick has a point whatever his point of view is. you feel that way, go do it before the game. just let us agree that we love the country and stand for the anthem. i like what they're doing in minnesota. >> the way i got through losing my legs was a matter of perspective. all the facts and situation was the same i decided i didn't lose my legs i got a second chance at life. when we talk about the anthem and flag it's a perspective. does it stand for the things you agree with vocalize that. how can we change and make it better. that's what the flag stands for and that's what the national anthem stands for. steve: we have gotten to know you a bit over the last year. and this is the way you can get to know him. it's called blown away. the story of joey jones johnny joey jones and it is a coloring book. why is it a coloring book? why did you want to tell your story via crayons. >> i was in the united states marine corps. seals make movies, rangers write memoirs and marines we make coloring books. rachel: color surgery relaxing for all ag

. >> although collin kaepernick is yet to be signed by any nfl team, reports of police brutality remainng, it's grown. this week's gq magazine named kaepernick citizen of the year. >> if you're more enraged about a quiet, peaceful protest during a segment of an nfl game that most people don't even watch, if you're more upset about that than you are about police brutality and americans getting killed by police officers, then you are part of the problem. i look at what colin kaepernick did and the movement he has helped spark as inspirational and as truly american. when you are agitating in a way to try to make your country better, that is true patriotism. >>> stay with us. there's another hour of "a.m. joy" and the top 10 stories of 2017. don't go away. you know what's awesome? gig-speed internet. you know what's not awesome? when only certain people can get it. let's fix that. let's give this guy gig- really? and these kids, and these guys, him, ah. oh hello. that lady, these houses! yes, yes and yes. and don't forget about them. uh huh, sure. still yes! xfinity delivers gig speed to mo

brian: so the new yorker magazine that has him kneeling next to collin kaepernick or animation or cartoon? >> it does. we are inserting politics into the one of the few moments that our country can kind of come together and disregard our political ideologies just for me. and then you see all these different media outlets with their own takes on it their own agendas. rachel: how did you feel last week when the president had that ceremony honoring martin luther king, his nephew was there and april ryan, the reporter at the end -- nobody asked by the way the nephew anything at all, right? >> not at all. rachel: and then she yelled out are you a racist. brian: let's watch. in case you missed it. >> mr. president, are you a racist? >> mr. president, will you respond to these serious questions about your statement, sir? >> >> mr. president, are you a racist? brian: does that bother you? >> it does. i had so many friends there happy to celebrate dr. king's legacy and happy to celebrate that proclamation. but then the entire story was all about not about the words that were spoken there but all a