cashin' in crew, gerri willis, david and gary mercer. gary, what do you think, should everything be out in the open? we need more transparency so that stuff can get done? >> of course we do. of course these conversations should take place out in the open and that's what's so exciting about seeing this. you saw an actual conversation between democrats and republicans, on an issue that is substantive for the american people. let me tell you, michael wolff saying the president is a moron. you were able to judge for yourself in this meeting by listening to the president get right in the middle. just like he was leading a board of directors, guiding the conversations. trish: that's what i liked. you mentioned leading the board of directors. this, gary, is a guy who has a tremendous business background. this seemed to be on display. shouldn't we as taxpayers be able to see more of how the sausage gets made, so to speak? >> you said the magic word, taxpayers. they work for us, we pay their salaries. we should be able to see the unfiltered, unvar

cashin' in crew, gerri willis, david and gary mercer. need more transparency so that stuff can get done? >> of course we do. of course these conversations should take place out in the open and that's what's so exciting about seeing