hillary clinton raised the point, i'm sorry, when harry reid brought up the violation of the hatch act>> why don't we talk about president trump and what he did. he's the president. >> i can't believe it. >> why don't we have warren g. harding. he has as much relevance as anything else. >> that's why we're continuing to look in the clinton foundation. >> you'll the prosecuted, as well. >> suddenly, they are relevant. if they're guilty, you said to prosecute them. hillary clinton is a relevant person. the previous administration is relevant and harry reid's actions are relevant. >> and the president is relevant. >> i think he can fire james comey without it necessarily being that i'm going to try to torpedo this investigation. you can fire james comey because of the way he's conducting it. >> okay. i mean, that's quite -- that hair has been split pretty thinly there, has it not, jack? you're saying he can fire him because he doesn't like the way he's running the investigation. and there's a distinction between that and how he's running the investigation? >> he can fire him without cause

mitch mcconnell -- you can't trust harry reid. mitch mcconnell told harry reid if you do this, if you do that, it it is about unemployment. let me come back over the christmas break, we would talk about unemployment. these two kids, they are children. they were in diapers in 2013. they don't go back that far. they are only here right now, today. when they came back, mitch mcconnell did not even take up the unemployment. you cannot deal with the republicans like you can deal with the democrats. host: thanks for the call. niels lesniewski was here with the government shut down. your perspective? capitol was in the building for 21 days and a row in 2013. i was looking back -- to the point,point -- caller's everyone is on the opposite side. this could be one of those situations where the shutdown drags on. everyone could just hand their talking points from one person to the other because so far, everyone is predictably saying the opposite thing of what they said in 2013. host: that is next, our line for independence. and sarah lesniew

does he have harry reid's touch. does he have what it takes to keep his caucus, his conference in line because a few of them did break with him on this vote. does he have what it takes to take this over the finish line and get the deal that the democrats need on daca. >> yes, i think he does. senator schumer has enormous faith and trust of democratic caucus. no question about that. i'm sorry he's going to navigate this as he has done through other difficult situations in the past. always the person right there with senator reed working through the many difficult things we went through, including the 2013 shutdown. and the one thing i would add about what president trump said in 2013 is who were these republican senator leader in 2013. it was mitch mcconnell. this is what republicans do. this is what senator mitch mcconnell does. they shutdown the government. this is on them. >> jonathan to this point that garrett was talking about. this effort to keep some sort of deal. to keep the government funded to february 8 in

does he have harry reid's touch? does he have what it takes to keep his caucus, his conference in line? because a few of them did break with him on this vote. does he have what it takes to take this over the finish line and get the deal that the democrats need on daca? >> yes, i think he does. senator schumer has the enormous faith and trust of his democratic caucus. there is no question about that and i'm sure he's going to navigate this deftly as he has done in the past. he was always there with senator reid working through the difficult things we went through, including the 2013 shutdown. and the one thing i would add about what president trump said in 2013 is who was the republican senate leader in 2013? it was mitch mcconnell. so this is what republicans do. this is what senator mcconnell does. this is what the republican party does. they shut down the government. and this is on them. >> jonathan, to this point that garrett was talking about, this effort by mitch mcconnell to come to some sort of a deal that kee

six months ago harry reid said there was evidence comey had broken the law and he had done more damagethe fbi than j. edgar hoover but this trumps anything we've seen before. joined by now by chuck rosenberg. and welcome to the show. >> thank you. >> so plet -- let me ask you this. what is moral like in the fbi right now. >> well there is two morals in the fbi. one is that these men and women are mission oriented and mission focused. and i mean that sincerely. they care about helping victims of financial fraud or finding missing children. that fbi is fine. there is another fbi that listened every day to the drum beat and that hurts. people join the fbi because they believe in what it stands for, fidelity, bravery and integrity, but to have that sort of undermined by the leadership is a difficult thing to listen to every day, chuck. >> what do you make of the text messages? are you disturbed by any of it? >> look, i know those two folks. they are good people. i think they exhibited bad judgment. good people sometimes exhibit bad judgment. and the problem with the text messages of course

go back to your days with harry reid.things like this happen, who, if your opinion, is supposed to be in charge of this? you'd think if the log jam is in the senate, it'd be mitch mcconnell and chuck schumer. but it actually seems to be the president sort of negotiating individually and independently with both of them. >> well, yes, that's true. but the answer to your question is when the big deals were cut, it involved the active involvement of the president of the united states and the house and senate leaders. here we have a situation where this president simply doesn't know how to cut a deal, nor does his team, quite frankly. you know, he's making promises that he's not following through on. he talks to senator schumer and sends his chief of staff back to tell schumer there's no deal. you know, i think there is a possibility something can get worked out, to be quite honest about it, but i also felt that last night. of course, it fell apart in a spectacular mess. but this is legislative malpractice, the likes of which

this is not a problem about mitch mcconnell so much or even a problem about harry reid. it's a problem about us. we, the american people, we elect these people, and we continue to reelect these people even when they fail to serve our needs. so, yes, it's easy to blame washington for the dysfunction that's going on here. but washington is a representation of who we are as a people. and if we allow this to continue, it's because we as americans are a disfunctional people. yes, we are responsible. we are the citizens in control of the government, and if we don't exercise control, we can't keep blaming other people in washington and not taking responsibility to vote those people out of power who do not serve our needs. >> we've tried to take some of these people out, and we're briept about it. we've tried to take republicans out who do this and democrats. look, until we change the leadership, you're not going to see these sorts of problems, leps especially in the senate, change. this is a problem with how they operate in the u.s. senate. and, don, people don't vote on proces

it was a breakdown in the senate at the time under harry reid that prevented the government from opening. so i do think there's a major difference now in 2013. importantly, the deal that's on the table right now is the type of deal that would have worked in 2013 and would have worked, in fact, did work in 2013 and 2015. it's a bipartisan measure. the bill that the house passed it's the old-fashion typical bipartisan bill that does keep the government open but for some reason the dysfunctions specifically with senate and democrats is dramatic now it's not working. almost as if they are behold to left wing that they can't give the president even victory on keeping government open. chris: i want to take you back to the big meeting that was held on friday in the white house between president trump and chuck schumer. senate democratic sources tell me this, let's put it up on the screen, schumer raised full funding of a wall, more than $18 billion and a full increase in military $80 billion, white house chief of staff john kelly later called back and said to schumer that it was, quote, too lib

but it was started by harry reid, john podesta and hillary clinton. >> you like comey less than you usedo, i like him more than i used to. >> i bet you like bannon more than you used to. >> there was the crime of the century during that election. a hostile foreign power hacked the united states and tried to swing the election to donald trump who then won. there is increasing evidence that mr. trump's relatives, campaign chairman and others cooperated in a conspiracy to do that. we don't know that yet. was it committed by donald trump? >> you sound like a kid writing out his christmas list to santa, like you're hoping there was collusion. there hasn't been one shred of evidence saying there was collusion. >> that's simply not true. donald trump jr., jared kushner, all met with the russians with the stated intent of gaining from the russian government as they were told in e-mails, dirt on hillary clinton. >> they were told -- >> wait, that -- >> months, months before. >> you don't actually believe they were meeting for an adoption program? >> let's just be real. you don't really believe th

the housennell and majority leader, harry reid -- you can't trust harry reid.ch mcconnell told him that if he do this, it will affect unemployment. when we came back over the christmas break them we would talk about unemployment. they are children. this far. go back they are just here right now today. when they came back, mitch mcconnell did not pick up unemployment. guest: i was in the capitol building for 21 days in a row in 2013. it'so the colors point, true that this is one of those things where everyone is on the opposite side. it could be a situation where the shutdown drags on. everyone could hand the talking points from one person to the so far, everyone is predictably saying the opposite of what they said in 2013. host: matt is next from pennsylvania. good morning. caller: how are you doing? i would like to start withcalle? article one section seven of the constitution where it says that all bills should originate in the house of representatives but the senate may propose or concur on other bills. that being the case, why are we worrying about what the

that was said when harry reid was in leadership, 2013. i brought that deal back and said now it's not 20. you have blocked 60 so far this last year. it's over and above, far above what anything republicans did when democrats were in. let's take the same deal democrats asked for the republicans give them in 2013. the democrats are saying no, that was good for us but it's not good for you. we won't agree to the exact same language. i'm going to try to bring into the floor and say let's resolve it. there's a right way to do it let's do it. >> shannon: so many unfilled positions in key areas that would matter to the president and his goals. >> enter the country quite frankly. these are key people in these agency. >> shannon: keep us updated. you're going to stick around and come back so we'll see you later. we're going down more breaking news coverage of the shutdown showdown on capitol hill. debate raging late into the night tonight. we are tracking every development. senator lindsey graham has gone back and forth with the white house and de

harry reid was throwing fire bombs at the fbi, harry reid was saying that the institution is corrupthey might have broken federal now the tables are turned. all of a sudden the dialogue is changing. both parties have attacked the fbi. both parties have attacked this institution. >> yeah that may be the case. but what we see happening now from trump's loyalists in congress is an unprecedented in modern times attack by -- by congress on our -- on our institutions on our law enforcement. i have to say, you know, there is a reason why this is happening. you know, the republicans could have opposed trump. republican members of congress could have opposed trump in the primaries. many remained silent. he won 47% of the primary vote. he was weaker then than now. now he has 85% approval. if they didn't do it then they're not doing it now. now they are stuck. and ner the party of government. and they have no one to blame. and so they have to come up with the conspiracy theories that unfortunately are eroding public confidence. >> i think that's why most people disagree with. where democrats ma

one of his, but i think for the statements they made later, originally the question was raised by harry reid in the campaign when he said did he violate the hatch act by influencing an election and getting involved with it. john po john podesta. >> trump praised james comey. you put all of the pieces of the puzzle together and that is not why. >> why do they always go back to hillary. >> it is historically accurate -- >> he stands -- >> i'm sorry, but the law has not changed. hillary clinton raised the point, the law was not changed. here is what i can tell you. >> what about president trump and what he did. >> i don't know you get so excited when we bring up hillary clinton. >> he is the president. i can't believe it. >> let's bring up warren g. harding. >> today must have been a terrible day -- i guess so, that's why we're continuing to look at -- >> prosecuted as well. a pros kus them. hillary clinton is a relevant person and the previous administration is relevant. and comey is also relevant. i think he could fire james comey without it being that i'm going to torpedo this investigation.

even with president obama, nancy pelosi and harry reid they did not pass any immigration reform and didn't do anything with daca. that tells you that they understood the voters in america are really flinching back from this issue. so yes when we have the majority they are willing to block everything and say they support amnesty but when they had filibuster proof senate they did nothing. >> the president has been saying he would like a wall and other border security provisions in exchange for allowing the undocumented youth to remain in the country, remove that threat of deportation. what is your position on the wall given that you are on the border? >> i point out to the administration that the wall doesn't work. i have a section of the wall this big in my office because somebody on the other side cutting it down and selling them from scrap iron in offduty hours. it is good scrap iron. in the remote places we will need something different. you talk about securing the border. the idea to build this physical structure and secure the border is one that will leave a lot of people disappointed.

is this his first major test since taking over from harry reid? >> yes.s is a party that's been languishing, they could make arguments on health care but ultimately republicans stopped that from going forward. this is the first moment where you saw democrats being able to actually exert some rev raj -- leverage and schumer got a lot of praise from the liberals in the caucus from liberal activists last week for the position he was taking but you're really seing that shift today. host: one final question, i'll first pose it to bob and then get your reaction, julie. if the shutdown continued into the week, where would that have put schumer? guest: i think he made the decision it would have hurt his party. democrats had a good 2017. trump did not get any big legislative win until the end of the year. he did get a big win on the tax bill. but i think some of these democrats in trump states who are up for re-election were thinking, things are going pretty well for me. this was risk. once the shutdown happened, it was risky for both sides. i think democrats saw,

in 2013 it was harry reid and the democrats who voted no.oted to shut the government down, just like this week. republicans voted to fund the government and it was chuck schumer and the democrats who voted to shut the government down. reporter: bottom line, are shutdowns a good use of leverage or not? cruscrus look, we should not be -- mr. cruz: look, we should not be shutting the government down. i consistently oppose shutdowns. in 2013 i said we shouldn't shut the government down. i went to the senate floor repeatedly asking unanimous consent to reopen the government. reporter: you stood in the way of that. mr. cruz: that's factually incorrect. it's a wonderful media narrative. but only one thing actually causes a shutdown. when you have senators who vote to deny cloture on a funding bill. and when that bill comes up, you have a vote. a yes means fund the government. a no means don't fund the government. in 2013 virtually every single republican voted to fund the government, including me, multiple times. and virtually -- in farkts every si

harry reid was throwing firebombs at the fbi. harry reid was saying that the institution is corrupt and that they might have broken federal law when it was against hillary clinton at that time. so now the tables are concerned. all of the sudden the dialogue is change. both parties have attacked the fbi. both parties have attacked. >> that may be the case. but what we see happening now from trump's loyalists in congress is an unprecedented in modern times attack by congress on our institutions, on our law enforcement. and i have to say there is a reason why this is happening. the republicans could have opposed trump. republican members of congress could have opposed trump in the primaries. many of them remain silent. he won 47% of the republican primary vote. he was weaker then than he is now. now he's got about 85% approval. if they didn't do it then, they're not going to do it now. now they are stuck. and they are the party of government. and they have no one to blame. and so they've got to come up with these conspiracy theories

does he have harry reid's touch? does he have what it takes to keep his caucus, his conference in line because a few of them did break with him on this vote? does he have what it takes to take this over the finish line and get the deal that the democrats need on daca? >> yes, i think he does. senator schumer has the enormous faith and trust of his democratic caucus. there's no question about that. i'm sure that he's going to navigate this deftly as he has done through other difficult situations in the past. he was always the person right there with senator reid working through many of the difficult things that we went through, including the 2013 shutdown. the one thing i would add about what president trump said in 2013 is who was the republican senate leader in 2013? it was mitch mcconnell. so this is what republicans do. this is what senator mcconnell does. this is what the republican party does. they shut down the government, and this is on them. >> jonathan, to this point that garrett was talking about, this effo

or any other film star or celebrity it's going to have a lot of power but they can do it now and harry reidhas we saw over the the controversy over h. and m's ads you can have a famous person come out and say i'm not going to buy a close anymore and he's got a lot of followers then what do you do yes yes absolutely well i think each of them have responded very fast they apologized almost immediately they said they got it wrong and they're now taking corrective action on that particular issue all right thanks so much for your thoughts on that. apple says it's going to create twenty thousand jobs for american workers the i phone maker says the investment three hundred fifty billion dollars to the u.s. economy over the next five years the u.s. tech giant has faced criticism in the past for employing huge numbers of workers in asia it's also taken flak for avoiding u.s. taxes by keeping cash reserves in foreign bank accounts. b.p. has revealed it will pay an additional one point seven billion dollars this year towards the deepwater horizon accident the two thousand and ten environmental disaste

harry reid used the word hostage in 2013. the last two major sets of shutdowns, i think the media largely blamed the minority party. mara: donald trump controls the whole sh shebang. hashtag. howie: there has been a sub text about the s*hole countries that was reported to have been said in a meeting with hill leaders. it's been tied to the government shutdown. guy: i think that's an excuse from the democrats. the immigration issue is an important one. i happen to favor a dreamer act. and he said in that extraordinary meeting at the white house that he will virtually sign anything. but it's a separate issue. the house of representatives, a majority of republicans voted to keep the government open. butted the democrats in the senate are blocking it. juan: the president is the one who said i am going to stop this daca deal, this dreamers deal and have a deadline in march. then introduce it, this is donald trump the deal maker, as a chip. saying if you want a deal you will have to come to me with an offer, specifically it's the w

. >>>> harry reid became a millionaire as a united states senator and the salaries aren't that high. lookna back on the 90s fondly when we were just talking about sex scandals and interns. now we have to talk about a much greater level of corruption. it wasn't just a narrative. it was a fact that they filled their pockets personally so they could live like the billionaires they like to hang out with. steve: last word to you. what this really says about the corruption our system, ann. >> amy made a great point. weirdly enough i'm nostalgic for a total shorn dog in the oval office. when you see the deep state going after trump and fbi agents going after him saying we have an understand policy to block him. this is more horrifying than i could have managed. so good for trump for fleshing that out. he just has to beat them now. steve: thanks so as much. we'll be right back with more of the next revolution. don't gonc away. o protect your house from a lighting strike give me the same rush as being golfball-sized hail? of course not. but if you can stick to your new year's resolution, then

this part of what's wrong with the harry reid, barack obama, nancy pelosi democrats.not going to do it. eventually by popular pressure they gave in. it was one of the most of populist moments of the tea party. this is what they wanted for the last 8 years. kennedy: the "politico" peace makes the argument that we are in political trench warfare. maybe each side gains a couple inches a day, but that's it. we are in a stalemate. i think the problem is you have only got two side. you have only got two parties that don't represent a core of people who share a series of beliefs. people are republican and democrat in name only. you need more parties. you don't need earmarks. you need smart coalitions of people who will get together and pursue the truth and do the right thing. i know that's wildly optimistic. >> it might not yield policy you or i like. i don't think there is necessarily a libertarian coalition to abolish the department transportation but there may be one to dial down domestic spying. that would be the sort of thing. but members of congress don't think it's th

democrats don't care, donald trump and mitch mcconnell saying democrats are holding government hostage harry reid used the word "hostage" in 2013 the last two major sets of shutdowns i think the media the minority party republicans the difference you had divided government then not now. >> big difference, and donald trump, controls the whole shebang, because he has chosen immediate dominance as mooedud operandi the main show that is why -- at #trump shutdown top trending topic on twitter right now i think because biggest figure in american politics going to end up with some blame for anything that happens good or bad. >> let's -- you maybe right about dominating media down the control what happens in senate but there is also been this you know sort of subtechnicality here as this continuing drumbeat about sn hole, s-house countries reported to have said in meeting with hill leaders, being tied to the government shutdown, this started the whole -- collapse of trust in the negotiations, do you think that is fair unfair in terms of the way press. >> i think excuse from democrats the immigration issu

you saw in the last session harry reid and mitch mcconnell, they really hated each other and one thing theye they had in common is they both loved the nationals, they both loved baseball. the first thing they would talk about, did you catch the game? when you had chuck schumer to come in, there was this hope that they could reset relations, and that's rapidly devolved. i hear those relations are almost worse off now than the relationship between mcconnell and reid. >> that's such a critical part of it. you raised the shutdown of 2013, and an interesting lesson came out of that. the republicans got the blame, yet they went on to big victories. could we see the same thing? or are democrats risking potential victories? >> it's certainly a gamble right now. of how this will play out, particularly in swing states. there are 23 sort of vulnerable seats that are up in the next election. they have to defend those seats in states where immigration is not popular. >> very quickly, last word. >> you have 30 who aren't running for reelection. depending on how it works out whether immigration is ta

record show personally contributed $10,000 to a former democratic secretary of state, $2500 to harry reid leadership fund and from 2006 reporter: 2017 the organizations all using the address of his namesake casino contributed over $700,000 to nevada democratic related organizations. so far the state party has not returned our calls or e-mails for comment. the national dnc has put out a statement blasting the rnc for its connection to win committee conducts scandal. joining us now to talk about it all, republican financier and owner dan palmer. nice to see from los angeles. thank you for getting up early with us. so far, a 12 word statement saying they would accept it the resignation. is that enough from the rnc or do you want more. >> at the right place to be. obviously facing serious allegations and affected the value of his stock and not a matter for the rnc and is the appropriate first step. >> when there was the harvey weinstein sexual harassment and assault allegations, the rnc had no problem waiting and i'm not. i make in all, the chair say in three decades worth of harassment alleg

i predict that's when this immigration fight will come to hey head and harry reid thinks he could have a couple -- a bit more time on the daca issue into the spring. if house speaker paul ryan wants to get welfare reform done in the spring, it's going to be very interesting to see whether president trump decides to deal with democrats or members within his own party. >> also ben, let's talk about paul ryan and what he wants to get done. he wants to cut money from entitlements. mitch mcconnell says entitlement reform is dead on arrival without democratic votes in the senate. do they -- how do they bridge that divide there? >> i don't think they bridge that divide on entitlement reform. paul ryan would love to do it. this is a chance this is his last year. mitch mcconnell has said, look, we need democrat boats to do that. i don't think there's a path forward on entitlement reform. kevin, one of the world's leading philadelphia eagles fan -- >> yes, tough loss yesterday, ben. tough loss. >> 6-0, didn't matter. you'll roll to the playoffs. i'll say this, they won't get welfare reform done.

. >> harry reid became a millionaire as a state senator and the salaries aren't that high.timillionaire. but i look back on the '90s fondly when we were talking about sex scandals and interns. now we have to talk about a much greater level of corruption. it wasn't just a narrative. it was a fact, they filled their pockets so they would live like the billionaires that they like to rub elbo elbows with. steve: they feel entitled to all of this. and the last word to you. what this really says about the corruption of our system. ann: i think amy made a great point. weirdly enough i'm nostalgic for a total horn dog in the oval office too. when you see the deep state going after trump and their fbi agents investigating him while bang, we have an insurance policy to block him, leaking all of these e-mails. this is more horrifying than i could have imagined. good for trump for flushing that out. he just had to beat them now. steve: very good. thank you very much. thanks so much for joining us from new york. we'll be right back with more of "the next revolution." don't go away. mino

they'd be on the senate floor, and harry reid would rail against the koch brothers, and it turns out that most americans didn't know who the koch brothers were. but did that begin as a smear campaign, do you know? i mean, was that a coordinated campaign? >> guest: well, yes. that was definitely coordinated, although as i say at the heart of many smears as my definition in the book is there are grains of truth. the reason i call them smears is because the people who are trying to troy other people's ideas -- destroy other people's ideas are often trying to -- they have political interests that are rooted in annihilation of a target. it's not so much that they're really trying to expose what they say on the surface, they're trying to expose, they're trying to remove an enemy or an effective spokesman for a cause, for example. the koch brothers are interesting, i googled -- in fact, i googled today because someone raised this question. there are so many charts done on their ubiquitous ties and all the groups that i've done in my book, "the smear," they're so easy to find. so many people

. >> i voted to fund the government and it was harry reid and the democrats who said they would shut down the government. this week, the republicans voted to fund the government and chuck schumer voted to shut it down. >> are shutdowns a good use of leverage? down theuld not shut government. i have opposed shutdowns and i went to the senate floor and consent.nimous >> view stood in the way of that. >> that is not correct. it is a media narrative. the thing that causes the shut down is senators who vote to , in 2013,re and virtually every republican voted to fund the government and every democrat voted to shut down the government and the same is true here with republicans voting to fund the government and democrats voting to shut it down. >> that is not the case. incorrect?ct is >> you insisted, at the time. >> you don't want to debate me because you don't have facts. your colleagues -- >> the republicans were divided. i walked through what happened and the mistake that was made by senate republican leadership was to turn and attack house republicans and turn them on each other. i wis

. >> dana: you warned harry reid about the dangers of changing the rules of the senate.aid -- >> breaking the rules to change the rules would fundamentally change the senate. future majorities will be looking to this precedent. i don't know what the future holds but two years from now, i could be setting the agenda around here. and once deployed, the nuclear option may have fallout and future congresses. >> dana: sometimes for the president and from the right, to ask you to change the rules for other things like appropriation bills in order to avoid things like that shut down he went through two weeks ago but you've withstood that. why is that the wrong thing to do? >> what's unique about the senate is that it requires a super majority to do most things. there are a couple exceptions and we've used those on the tax bill. having been in them minority a lot around here, i can give you a long list of really bad things that have been stopped because the majority can get 60. socialized medicine, getting rid of state to write work laws. it would be a very different country to

so you find, that is harry reid's doing. it is not the republican's doing, that was harry reid.ll you need is 51 votes and with, with the democrats not, republicans having that and democrats having a very difficult time fighting it, they will do figure they can to keep people out of office if they think it is a position important to them. i went through that others have gone through it. i'm hoping americans will step up. it is such a great time in our history. i think sean spicer said it, i will repeat it, if this president asked me to come mow the lawn, i will mow the lawn. anything to keep this going, this is incredible, incredible time in our history. people need to step up. neil: you gave yourself an out. too cold to mow the lawn. >> that's true. neil: andy, thank you very much. >> same here. neil: do any of you like big superhero, big, big, superhero movies? there are a lot of them. she relates it to fracking, a temporary thrill and high but longer term it is bad. i love jodie foster, don't get me wrong. americans go to escape at a movie. can they escape without you lecturi

. >> go back to your days with harry reid. when things like this happen, who in your opinion is supposed to be in charge? you would think the log jam is in the senate that it would be mitch mcconnell and chuck schumer. it seems to be the president sort of negotiating individually and independently with both of them. >> well, yes. that's true. we have a situation where this president doesn't know how to cut a deal nor does this team. he's making promises that he's not following through on. he talks to senator schumer and sends his chief of staff back to say there's no deal. i think there's a possibility something can get worked tout be quite honest about it. i also felt that last night and it fell apart in this spectacular mess. this is legislative malpractice, likes of which i haven't seen. there's a lot of blame for this president and speaker ryan and senator mcconnell. >> a big part of the country based on the news that they consume thinks this is the schumer shutdown. they think it's a democratic shutdown. they think it's a

i think that a caretaker mayor would be the best for san francisco and i've been troubled to harry reiding articles and so on and so forth, people influencing the process. we need to know it's the people's place as well as you are honored and blessed to be elected by your own constituency. so you need to understand that the people pay your salary. so i believe having a caretaker mayor is the best process. and when they do run, let's put them on an even playing field and let the resume speak for themselves. no one should have a hand up and especially in my community where they say you need to work hard. so i never had a leg up. i worked hard. so, again, you need to grow up and have a caretaker mayor and let that individual run on their own. thank you. and thank you for the opportunity. no more outside influence. thank you. >> president breed: thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. >> thank you to the board and president and acting mayor breed. >> president breed: pull the microphone close. >> i'm everbright, member of the lgbtq democratic club and women's march leadership team,

posturing, pandering, but i would like to reset the table and go back to 2009 when you had pelosi, harry reid, with 60 senators and obama and they did nothing for the undocumented workers. they did nothing for these kids that were in the country illegally, brought there by their parents, through no fault of their own. the daca issue was created when obama waited until august of 2012. he had been president 3 1/2 years. cohave fixed this in 2009 when they had a filibuster-proof senate. they could have raised minimum wage. a lot of things they're speaking now that are hot-button issues. they did not choose to deal with them. so in august of 2012, obama does the executive order which put all the daca kids in limbo. he did it as political ploy. he ran for re-election three months later. they politicized this issue and want to continue to do so. i reminded some "dreamers" come into my office, that it is trump and republicans trying to give them certainty so they never have to worry about this again. trish: wouldn't that be amazing. >> i agree with him -- trish: providing a path to citizenship. >> f

president obama and the republican majority in the house pushed harry reid to end the practice. earmarks largely seen a thing of the past. that is until president trump brought it up yesterday and suggested it as way to find a deal on daca and the border wall. joining me now live from capitol hill is msnbc garrett. is there anything to this? are members of congress likely to say, look, the one benefit of earmarks in the legislative process as distasteful as it seems to people is it's way to get a deal done. >> reporter: yeah, absolutely. there are some discussions going on about this on capitol hill but there are discussions about a lot of issues that don't necessarily go anywhere. there is some interest among some of these old school lawmakers who know this has been way to grease the skids. a way to bring people along on bills they may not otherwise want to support. that being said, you don't need earmarks to do that. think of the special projects and special cut outs and set asides that we talked about when the tax bill was working its way through. you don't have to do this th