think he he didn't negotiated very well and i think you know i hate to say it but i think the republicans and i think the white house won this one that said this is a temporary this is a three month visit three week delay until the next showdown i think both parties look bad here i agree with lani on that i think it is kind of a pox on both houses let alone the. years. donald trump said to me there's not a candidate then if there's a government shutdown the president has to be to blame season judge. and then the thing to do the blame with this one. well look i think all leaders share some responsibility to a certain degree i mean in this particular situation what it came down to was you know i do think that the democrats shut this government down in part because they want to have a discussion about immigration is a perfectly reasonable thing perhaps from their perspective but to to say that just because you were involved in the ultimate event that shut the government down doesn't mean that you don't bear some responsibility so overall i think certainly all parties in this situ

i think that's. very interesting i think yes i think i mean i i think it's only a matter of time i don't know how long but i think it's only a matter of time that computers will be able to do everything that humans can now speaking about russia i mentioned before and i know that your community here has roughly six million years or so which frankly speaking is not that much but i heard that russia was the first country within the do a little family to deliberate a community generated language course how did it come about when we started doing ghost the courses that we had we thought spanish and we talk german those were generated by us inside that building a company. but at some point because we got we got asked for so many different languages we decided that it was better to allow different communities around the world to create courses the first one was in fact the course to learn english for russian speakers and that was generated entirely by community members the way that came about i mean the we left when we opened up this program called the dual lingual language incubator which is where the new c

i think that's. very interesting i think yes i think i mean i i think it's only a matter of time i don't know how long but i think it's only a matter of time that computers will be able to do everything that humans can now speaking about russia i mentioned before and i know that your community here has roughly six million years or so which frankly speaking is not that much but i heard that russia was the first country within the do a little family to deliberate a community generated language course that's how did it come about when we started doing ghost the courses that we had we talked spanish and we talk german those were generated by us inside the building a company. but at some point because we got we got asked for so many different languages we decided that it was better to allow different communities around the world to do create courses the first one was in fact the course to learn english for russian speakers and that was generated entirely by community members the way that came about i mean the we left when we opened up this program called the dual lingual language incubator which is where w

i do think that they help but i think they help solve the problem that was created by facebook in the first place and i think that that's what they can do i think to get any deeper than that has to get to where you as a person commit to actually considering the perspective of the other side not just the headlines but read the articles and say i think there's some validity in that and i don't really agree with this part and you know that conclusion feels like it's not you know supported by the article and then talk to somebody who does feel like you know agrees with the other part of it and have that conversation with them and you'll find that it while we can respond very viscerally to the headline like i disagree with that you're not going to respond so viscerally and so sort of vehemently and wholeheartedly to a person who has a perspective and a history and stories to tell around why they feel the way they do and i think that the deeper solution comes from that you know i you know i think people used to be quite cynical in the you know less partisan way about media you know people would assume you kn

i think we'll get this done, daca. i hope we're going to get infrastructure done in the same way, but i think you should look at a form of earmarks. i see lindsey nodding very happily yes but a lot of the pros are saying if you want to get along and if you want to get this country really rolling again, you have to look at a different form because this is obviously out of control. the levels of hatred, i'm not talking about trump. you go pack throughout the 8 -- if you go back throughout the eight years of obama and before that, the animosity and the hatred between republicans and democrats. i remember when i used to go out in washington and i'd see democrats having dinner with republicans and they were best friends and everybody got along. you don't see that too much any more, with all due respect. you really don't see that. when's the last time you took a republican out to dinner? [laughter] ] you don't see it, so maybe, totally different from this meeting because we'll get daca done, i hope we'll get daca done and we'l

i think we're going to get this done, daca. i think we're going to get -- i hope we're going to get infrastructure done in the same way. i think you should look at a form of ear marks. i see lindsay nodding very happily yes. a lot of the pros are saying if you want to get along if you want to get this country really rolling again, you have to look at a different form. because this is obviously out of control. the levels of hatred. i'm not talking about trump. i'm talking, you go back throughout the eight years of obama and you go before that. the animosity and the hatred between republicans and democrats. i mean, i remember when i used to go out in washington and i'd see democrats having dinner with republicans and they were best friends and everybody got along. you don't see that too much anymore, with all due respect, you really don't see that. when is the last time you took a republican out? why don't you degree p guys go out and have dinner together? but you don't see it. maybe, very importantly, totally different from this m

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thing i was a was i think i think the the was the. i. think i. think. i was. i. own. the old i. find it a good for everybody whether it's for several reasons one is it just brings communities together like we have here today and also people from all over the world index. perience in germany in our culture here would you say anyone can sing even the people who don't believe they can sing yes of course everyone can think and behave people who initially find it difficult to hold to choosing to find the notes but that is only a question of training we're now in the editing studio with another very important member of our team kevin stein our picture editor kevin has chosen as his favorite episode there's a big sisters in bond with the breakdown says kevin what made this episode special for you why did you pick this one when you had so many to choose from it happens for the forgotten sheen based initial breakdowns on classes some of the excess bond fund or and so i didn't show cause i'm a big fanboy. the breakdown says who are also known as b. boys arrived from paris and immediately

i think it will continue to get harder. i think we're go having to to define that quite broadly as i mentioned. it's sort of the jaime's values question. we have a constitution for a reason and we have these protections for the bill of rights. we have these protections for a reason and just because it's hard i wouldn't want to see us say we're going to get pushed to the european model. >> great. are there any other thoughts that you would have if you can sit down with both the congress and the president, visa vee issues and the intelligence community that require attention as we prepare for our adversaries in the 21st century. as you know we've had some issues with meddling in our elections and what is the appropriate response we should have? and should there be reforms in the community for us to respond? >> for better or worse i helped auther the intelligence reform act. it's real easy in washington to -- it's impossible to kill something. >> which explands our careers. >> good point. >> and i always believe whether it was t

i i think william buckley was disinvited from baser 20 years ago. i mean these things happen. you book the wrong band. it's a party. i don't think speakers usually have much to do about inquiry. and some schools maybe the rules are good or bad in different states, universities are in the entertainment business, and therefore they're in the crowd control business. and at really big schools like northwestern and berkeley, they deal with crowd control all the time. usually around athletics, and that's just part of the administrative's nightmarish responsibilities, i guess. but i do think having a broader range of ideas on the faculty would probably be a good thing. i'm agreeing to what carroll said before about having a broad range of perspectives. again, it's going to be managed. i don't think it's a free market of hiring. i used to do a lot of interviewing at aha. got my first job in washington in 1982. and i got my first job because the guy who interviewed me, thank goodness whereby was, was. at least i claimed to have swum, and that led to get an interview. it's not a marketpl

think i think that you know just the. the planning i think that that was a missed opportunity i think that we we inherited a city that of course was a colonial city. and we had a chance to begin to think about how do we sort of become urban africans if i can sort of phrase it that way and what sort of african city if they such a thing do we want to be in i think we didn't have that conversation i think that of course there were other pressing things we worrying about education we were worrying about industry we were going about the economy but we were not thinking about these things in the way that we now think about them that the urban infrastructure or any sort of infrastructure that you're putting down of course is coherent with all of the other things that you're planning and so now i think we're realizing that that holistic approach which we are beginning to to adopt was something that we probably should have looked at really early on and the end effects effects a clear effects a clear i can recall from from the seventy's certainly

carolina hut with guns and prepare for the mock ups and start going down my neighbors yeah i again i think here i take it into extreme we're not there yet and i haven't really thought about you know next fifty yards and i don't believe not only that i don't trust you because you're looking at me with these brown eyes you're like don't worry we're not there yet but you know you know i know that we're there we're on the threshold of the extinction event for humans and machines essentially are taking over. so i think we every single one of us as i said carries a conscious decision to influence the technology you know what we're building clearly beings influenced by the technology already our conscious minds are outsourcing our information to google no one bothers to memorize anything anymore no bonus to think anymore your members use kinds of carry through in the case of our needs our wants and our desires and our titillation that's all i don't have a button and there's no effort anymore it's the physical calorie of humans as is becoming the blob stay we have no reason even to get up in the morning

think he didn't negotiated very well and i think you know i hate to say it but i think the republicans and i think the white house won this one that said this is a temporary this is a three month visit three week delay until the next showdown i think both parties look bad here i agree with lani on that i think it is kind of a pox on both houses let alone the. years. donald trump said to me there's not a candidate then if there's a government shutdown the president has to be to blame to season judge to have anything to do blame with this one. well look i think all leaders share some responsibility to a certain degree i mean in this particular situation what it came down to was you know i do think that the democrats shut this government down in part because they want to have a discussion about immigration is a perfectly reasonable thing perhaps from their perspective but to to say that just because you weren't involved in the ultimate event that shut the government down doesn't mean that you don't bear some responsibility so overall i think certainly all parties in this situat

so i -- yes, i think, i think that he i don't know what's going to happen. but i think it is a very real possibility that steve could think. >> and to follow-up on his question -- since he brought up mueller has anyone contacted you in connection with the investigation at all given to some of the things that you have in here such as bannon's quote that the meeting in june in trump tower was treasonnist? >> they have not but i'll be honest, i've gotten a lot i'm behind on my e-mail. [laughter] question here -- thank you. but question is have you consider consideredded you received subpoena for those tapes have you provided them and if you consider you would reach them publicly at the same time -- >> i have because i'll answer what i have not considered -- have not considered i have not considered what i would do if -- if my taste were subpoenaed -- brings up another problem in the whole idea of -- of the tapes and releasing tapes. because if my tapes were ever subpoenaed i would not release them. so, i think that that's -- that's my, you know, that's just part

i wanted to take a broad or look. i can't profile whole country, of course. but i sat down at my desk and i wrote down issues that i think determine this election. and among them were terrorism and va wait list and one i think was a part of it and i tried to pair individuals to those issues and then i traveled the country to lakeway texas to mom who lost her son and husband in the nice terrorist attack and to south carolina to profile a widow who lost her husband on a va wait list and tried to get to the heart of what drove their decision making and what made them the people they were. >> afterwars airs on booktv every saturday at 10 p.m. eastern, and suppedz at 9 p.m. eastern and pacific. many who went through combat together refer as brothers and today we're privileged to have -- to hear from two vietnam veterans both cool rad in article as and brothers tom an chuck hagel both volunteer to go to war and fought in the same army infantry unit. in our year of war, daniel recounts journey from middle america to vietnam at the height of the war and then home again. as we observed 50th anniversary of the war, privileged to h

i don't think we can tell. ites, in the north of england, from people who wa nted north of england, from people who wanted to leave the european union. and i think that labour should focus itself on getting a good result, leaving the european union. and i think all of us should. it seems to be labour's policy is to say, yes, we are going to leave, we want to leave, but we want to stay if possible inside the customs union, baby inside the single market as well, and if that isn't possible, we wa nt well, and if that isn't possible, we want the closest relationship possible and the softest wrecks at possible. well, i want the closest relations possible, but it is not possible to have control over the emigration from eu countries into this country and stay in the single market and in the customs union. this has been made crystal apparent. and you have only got to see what president macron onlyjust recently criticised the eu for giving as much to david cameron in his deal, he called it blackmail. now he definitely wou

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i think you're ready to go. i would like to add the words merit in to any bill that's submitted because i think we should have merit based immigration like they have in canada, like they have in australia, so we have people coming in that have a great track record as opposed to -- as opposed to what we're doing now, to be honest with you. merit based should be absolutely added to any bill even if it has to do with daca. i think it would be popular. i can tell you the american public vex wants that. bob, where are you with the bill? >> so tomorrow, chairman mccaul and congresswoman sally and we're the chairman of the subcommittees are going to introduce a bill that addresses the daca concerns. let me thank you, mr. president, both -- i was an immigration lawyer before i was elected congress. i want to thank you both for campaigning on securing our borders and the interior of our country, but also on addressing daca in a way that makes sense. don't do it ad hoc. do it through the congressional process. so you've cha

beyond that, i think that is hopeless to get beyond that. and i think it leads us to a really terrible space of almost like predictive behavior. i don't want to be in that industry frankly. >> i think you raise a really interesting question about whether light is the best disinfectant. there are these pieties we have about fight bad speech with more speech. and the risk is that the volume just keeps going up and up and up. and i think it is an interesting question about whether we're in a moment where these uses of social media are going to be reregulated by changes in social norms for example senior administrators not sending e-mails on weekends and creating a quieter and more delineate d set of zones of speech, or whether it is actually going require some grart regulation on t greater regulation on the part of the public sector, to say the government, of what are i think -- myself and i'm on record saying in in print -- under underregulated new technologies of communication. i think the jury is out about where that will end up with facebook and

think i think the initial the idea of forty five billion that sort of calculates a bit of steady growth and i think some of that will be dedicated to investment which will stimulate the economy and may attract some additional foreign investment so i think the german situation is relatively comfortable i think they can grow into this these spending plans comfort can be a dangerous thing and isn't it dangerous to expect that everything's. get better that is going to be more and more growth well there's always a there's always a shock around the corner and you just mentioned your of being high that's not good for german exporters and it's also not good for so then european exporters who are trying to come out of their hole and i think they have but europe needs needs to take it easy on the euro of europe can't get too strong this would be a bad bad news for exporters what about the tax situation and further tax increases no hike for the rich that was what was being pushed for design does that make sense that surprised me a bit i thought the s.p.d. would have would have pushed the their agenda a

i think, i really agree with dick. i think we get the one thing done and then we go into comprehensive the following day. i think it will happen. >> thank you all. >> thank you all very much. i hope we gave you enough material. this should cover you for about two weeks. >> live here on c-span3, a discussion of the new america in washington, d.c. about race, policing, and criminal justice in the u.s. we'll be hearing from authors, attorneys, and historians about possible new ways forward. you're watching live coverage on c-span3. expected to get started any moment.

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don't think about it very much. what would i say? i would point out that steve's dna will always be the dna of apple, or it will be as long as i am ceo. and i think as long as anyone is, honestly. i think it is deeply embedded in the company, and we celebrate it. and it should be like that and should stay like that. obviously, things evolve over time in some other areas, as they would have if he were sitting here interviewing with you today. there is clearly, i'm sure, some things, but that is probably a better question to ask somebody who worked for both of us. emily: you said cars are an area ripe for disruption. how important is it that apple not miss out on cars? tim: i think there is a major disruption looming there, not only for self driving cars, but also the electrification piece. if you have driven an all-electric car, it is actually a marvelous experience. it is a marvelous experience not to stop at the filling station or gas station or whatever you want to call it. plus, you have ridesharing on top of this. you've got kind o

think you -- i think i appreciate the design. i know we had some comments on the design. it's nice to see a building that doesn't have bay windows once in a while, and i think you've articulated contextually, once in a while, it works. i think on vanness, it works, especially given the context along vanness, so i think it's a great project. i like that you wrapped the retail around to union street because there's kind of a retail corridor, the start of a retail corridor on union street, so i'm in support of that. i think it's a great project. commission commission commissioner koppel. >> thank you, mr. president. kind of going off mr. schulman's comments, this reminds me of a project we approved, the lucky penny site. i liked that they took a lot of time and figured out how to go from a 21 unit building to a 90 unit building. i know they worked closely with commissioner farrell to create a closed space district. i honestly think this building's too small. i would have liked to see maybe some other options utilizing whether it's home sf or density bonus program or potential

think he's -- i think -- iave total confidence in him. >> do you think congress should do whatever it took to protect him if the president decided to fire him? >> well, this is tough because it's an executive branch appointment and i don't know how you -- how the congress extends a umbrella of protection legally through legislation over what is an executive branch nomination. or an appointment. i would say this. i think that the one thing that can be done is to try and figure out how to make it clear the magnitude of the political costs that would be incurred should he be fired. >> if you want to hear more of my interview with secretary gates including his thoughts on russia, china, the cia and spies in america, that was a little bit of the college sports scene, you can hear it all at 1947 on apple podcast. or wherever you get your podcasts. >>> when we come back, president trump is changing the way we think of government. just not in the way you might have imagined. ...it starts a chain reaction... ...that's h

very rarely in 17 years have i even given a thought to -- i wish i were there, i could do this, or i miss this. i think have to be grateful for the time you have and realize you should focus on today and the future. and i think it is both liberating and also it concentrates the memory. you don't know how many years you have left, but you feel that the country has given you something priceless and you owe something back. and so, each in our own way, we have tried to figure that out. i have found it a really rewarding part of my life. i have loved it. mr. bush: i woke up in crawford the day after the presidency expecting someone to bring me the coffee. [laughter] mr. bush: laura didn't bring the coffee. [laughter] i think the thing that startled me was the sense of having no responsibility. in other words, during the presidency you kind of become accustomed to the responsibility you have. first it is pretty grave, and then slowly but surely it becomes a natural part of your life. then you wake up the next day and suddenly you have no responsibility. that was probably the most stunning thing for me. david

i can't answer that. i have no idea. i mean, i think anything would be better, but -- yes, so -- >> i mean that falls into the category of be careful what you wish for. so, michael, last -- i -- last question. president trump tweeted, not recently but when the book came out, michael wolff is a total loser who made up stories in order to sell this really boring and untruthful book. he used sloppy steve bannon, who cried when he got fired and begged to his job. now sloppy steve has been dumped like a dog by almost everyone. too bad. [ laughter ] >> if the president were here right now or called you, what would you say to him? >> the thing about talking to donald trump is that you never get to say anything to him. but i predict that actually what he will say sooner rather than later is that he is responsible for this book. it's successful because of him and -- and he is the real writer of this book. >> and on that note, michael wolff. [ cheers and applause ] >> thank you both so much. if you could all please remain seated while our guests

well, i mean, this was my word which is humility. and i talked about a little bit why i think that matters. another word that i think i could have used is balance, because someone who is full of humility to the extent that they never promote themselves or their ideas, obviously, that's not going to work. i would say that in general taking advantage of where you are is key because -- and it's not just in the valley, although it's very strong here. but find people who have done this before and get their advice. it doesn't have to be a perfect analog, you know? you just need someone who's done before. and get their help. that's really important. >> thank you. thisthis is leslie berlin. her book, "troublemakers: silicon valley, coming of age." please join me in giving a very warm thanks to leslie. >> thank you. [applause] .. >> thank you for joining me i am honored and excited about having this conversation regarding your book which is remarkable and f

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don't think about it very much. what would i say? i would point out that steve's d.n.a. will always be the d.n.a. of apple. or it will be certainly as long as i am c.e.o. and i think as long as anyone is, honestly. i think it's deeply embedded in celebrate it.d we and it should be like that. that.uld stay like obviously things evolve over time in some other areas, as if he werehave sitting here sh interviewing with you today. there's clearly, i'm sure, some things. but that's probably a better somebody thatk worked for both of us. >> you said cars are an area disruption. how important is it that apple not miss out? on cars? >> i think there is a major disruption looming there. not only for self-driving cars electrification piece. all-electricven an car, it's actually a marvelous experience. marvelous experience not to stop at the filling station or gas station, whatever you want to call it. and so -- plus you have ride-sharing on top of this. right? so you've got kind of three change happening generally in the same time frame. at it in

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so i think we're only at the beginning of this discussion. ihink men have got to understand there's an up side. and i think emotion is probably the key to it. and these things are going to -- it's going to take more than one generation to change. you got to start. we've got to start. it's great this discussion is getting going because it's going to take generations to change. emotional and social change happens at a different pace than political change. we've got to start encouraging men and boys to understand the benefits of being more vulnerable, having better relationships. it's going to make them happier. it's going to mean they'll find the meaning of life in different places other than competition and consumerism. they're going to find it in friends and family and community. and, you know, these sort of things which are more positive. >> the book opens with a really dramatic and rather tragic tale. you talk about a little boy on a bicycle pedaling desperately uphill. take it away. >> i like to go mountain biking. i was in the forest coming

i think for the country, chuck, it's a non-issue. i think that they moved on. hink in the next year there will be three big factors. if it continues to go, roar on, they'll put aside the other concerns they have and say, enjoy the prosperity. the other one is, what does mueller find? do we hear from him this year? just down from that is what happens from immigration. those are the three big factors in play for the country mp that. that's they're paying attention to. >> rich, could this be a trial balloon to see if he gets away from it? last time republican reaction was, whoa, don't do it. this time considering they've softened the ground on mueller, it's possible this was a trial balloon. >> i think if you're going to fire mueller you should have done it at the beginning because he has an extensive factual record now. i'm with tom. is it the most salient fact that he was thinking of firing mueller or he didn't fire mueller? it's continuing. you're not going to get him based on impure thoughts of firing mueller. >> but you can get him on that on firing him. if he

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>> i do get that, but i think that i'm not taking myself too seriously. and i think we need more politicians who are able to laugh at themselves. and as long as people are laughing with me and i'm giving them the opportunity to engage, i think that's great, because for everybody who says that i'm not taking my job seriously, there are people who reach out to me to say that i'm a symbol of hope for them. they project positive things on to me, and i'm very happy to be that symbol for them. >> vincent, what would you say are some items that are holding the community back from being more engaged? >> well, there's some structural issues. so if you look at the number of times that asian americans are contacted by either people running for office or by the political parties, it's much, much lower than for other groups. so i think that one thing that has to change is that there needs to be a better awareness from the overall political infrastructure about the importance of the asian american vote, the importance of the pacific islander vote. so i think that's one thing