national interests, and, quite frankly, the edges of the future of humanity? in the united states those companies are microsoft, facebook, ibm, google/alphabet, and then skipping one. >> apple? >> -ish. and the other, the of the big companies, ibm up i didn't say it, so other three, and arguably the most well-capitalized and certainly those special i.t. globally are in china. what's interesting here is that the chinese government has obviously made big proclamations about the next 20 years and how it plans to be a global leader in ai. but what's important to note, because the native industrial policy before and china doesn't always follow through on, in a way that measures up to the proclamations. what's different this time is that china is not going it alone. there are researchers based in the united states. they are pouring money into u.s. firms, but unlike a traditional hedge, they're not expecting a return, they're bleeding i.t. there's a lot of work that is being done that is going directly back to the chinese government. there is no way for me to build a scenario out for the next 20 years at the moment that, you know, has an optimistic framing. china, you probably heard the da