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in a porn movie, stormy danielsment when she's receiving money from michael cohen and essential elements llc, she's called peggy peterson. i would say something looks fishy, just on the surface of this. >> what about where the money came from, if the payment was made, $130,000, is there a way to know, was it campaign contributions since it was made at the end of the campaign, october 2016? if it was, what questions does that raise? >> the questions that are raised in addition to the election contribution, you talk about money laundering. for instance, if somebody -- if this wednesday money that taxes hadn't been paid on, it depends on where the source of the money was. you're always looking to trace the money. a lot of times people create these delaware corporations to make the money untraceable. that's not to say this didn't come out of a personal bank account in which taxes had been paid and it's perfectly legal. but you would trace the money and follow the money trail to determine legality in the end. >> thank you. we appreciate it, paul callan. >>> coming up, the blame game. the president points the fenger at democr

peterson. we once again asked michael cohen and also the white house for comment on the story, we haven't heardnything back. but joining us is one of the "wall street journal" reporters who broke the story on friday. i knew you would keep working on this where did the money come from thing. i didn't think we'd have you back so soon. you examined the record that is show cohen set up the llc right before the election and move it had money into stormy daniels's lawyer's accounts. if you're able to set up companies that shield your identity, how did you figure that out. >> we thought michael cohen used an llc to pay stormy daniels before we wrote the first story. we had been looking for that llc for some time and through the reporting chain, we were able to learn he used this company, essential consultants, we looked at a lot of llcs and pulled the papers for this one and his name was on there. >> you also found another llc and there was an interesting timing on the dissolution between one llc and the creation of this one. >> he likes to name companies according to what he's going to do with them,

the "wall street journal" is reporting on, michael cohen is listed as the authorized person on these documents, and stormy daniels is listed as peggy petersonears to be a pseudonym. >> seth: wait, he used a pseudonym for the porn star but not himself? [ light laughter ] the porn star already has a pseudonym. [ laughter ] using a pseudonym for her and not you is like robbing a bank and telling your partner, "here, wear this second mask on top of your first mask. and i'll just cover my face with saran wrap." [ laughter ] of course, by now you've probably heard some of the more sordid details of the alleged affair. like the fact that daniels claimed that her affair with trump included an unusual act. spanking him with a copy of "forbes" magazine. [ laughter ] the spanking came during a series of sexual and romantic encounters with trump and that it involved a copy of "forbes" with trump on the cover. [ light laughter ] that's right. trump got spanked with a "forbes" magazine with his face on it. and this is apparently the issue she's referring to. but it's not just trump's face, check out who else is on the cover. [ laughter ] look at don juni

peterson and blank to be filled in is david denison. only two people can keep the copies, keith davidson, stormy daniel's lawyer and the lawyer for the other party who we now know was michael cohen. >> michael cohen has not denied specifically that there was a payment made to stormy daniels. if there was, is that something that could be legally chased? is there a paper trail behind that that could be found? the reason it seems to even matter is because the source of the funds is potentially important. if this is something that ends up having a meaningful effect on the campaign, somebody who paid that for donald trump, for the trump campaign might conceivably been making a the campaign donation to donald trump by putting up that $130,000. what's the best way to find out where that money came from? >> whether there was an fec violation. if michael cohen paid for it with his own money, i doubt that. karen mcdougal, who was paid by "national inquirer" to not tell her story, that looks maybe like a third party paid. in this case, i know donald trump doesn't like to pay for much himself, but this might be the rare case where he does pay with his own money. >> again, there was no

michael cohen, donald trump's lawyer, is listed as the authorized person for that company, but stormy daniels appears to come up on that document under a pseudonym and that pseudonym is peggy petersonn and stormy daniels have put out statements. here is what cohen said, he said these rumors have circulated time and again since 2011. president trump once again vehemently denies any such occurrence as has miss daniels. this, of course, doesn't address the alleged payment. now, the statement from stormy daniels says rumors that i have received hush money from donald trump are completely false. if indeed i have a relationship with donald trump, trust me, you wouldn't be reading about it in the news, you would be reading about it in my book. this, of course, seems significant because she doesn't say whether she got money from an llc, she simply says she didn't get money from donald trump himself. seems like both of these statements brianna are pretty carefully worded. >> it sure does. and "in touch weekly" released an interview it about with stormy daniels in 2011. this really kind of contradicts everything she said, everything michael cohen said. tell us about this. >> well, this is an