the most conservative president we ever had russell kirk in his book the conservative mind centered adams to be the true founder that he was anything but the ronald reagan type of conservative he was pessimistic about the future and a severe critic of american exceptionalism and said over and over america was no different from other countries they were just as vicious and sinful and corrupt as other nations. no special providence for the united states. adams was the ultimate realist committed to stubborn facts and challenged every american dream and believe we were all born unequal in education cannot do much about those inherent differences with a very un-american view. he was convinced that nature is what mattered most. he told jefferson he observed babies for hours old. some were uglier others peter fall. some were stupid or smart. [laughter] they were all born to equal rights but two very different degrees of success and influence society was inherently unequal and he believes the aristocrats would inevitably rise to the top as elites would not necessarily be the best or the wisest. m

we publish william f buckley and russell kirk with the conservative mind, witness and all of those are still in print today. >>host: does that say something about the publishing industry? >> definitely. and henry regnery recognize that in the market space that is a published book but that is also because they are part of the mission. >>host: who are some of the authors published today? >> the leading rights in the conservative movement, dinesh desousa, and a whole host of others. >> if you put and coulter out to does it sell automatically because of her name? >> it certainly helps. but i can't tell you any book is a guarantee of success anymore. as the book business has changed over the past 12 years a lot more of the business has gone online. so you lose that opportunity to visualize and publish those books visually and also lose the sense of discovery people have had for generations or finding the book they didn't know existed or an author they did not know about before. so frankly it is more pressure on publishers to help people know that a book exist if there isn't a celebrity auth

qshtive movement in early years of the publishing we publish william first book in yale we published russell kirks conservative mind we published witness, by whitaker and all of those books are still in precinct today we still sell them today. >> now does that say something about the publishing industry that those books weren't being published necessarily? >> it definitely does. and -- he -- henry recognized that and saw an opportunity in market police station and he back then did what we still do today which is we publish books because we publish conservative books because there are great business, but we also publish them because they're part of our mission. who are authors that you publish today? >> we publish a lot of the leading likes in conservative movement. they include the david lindh baa and whole host of over others on >> if you put an ann coulter book out o does it sell automatically because her name is on it? >> it helps that her name is on it but i can't tell you any book is a guaranteed success anymore. yeah i think as the book business has changed over the past -- 15 or 20 years a