we saw the monuments issue, this president took unprecedented action and to look at what secretary zeinke has done in reducing two million acres, bear's ears and grand stair case escalon. and we see in maine, a beautiful maine, a park that has been protected and preserved, threatened, as well. we are continuing it see this effort that feels like an attack on us because we are a part of what makes the national park system so amazing. it is about the history and the people and it is about all of our public lands, they are our lands. host: a story based out of alaska this morning, king cove, action by interior department says on monday, the interior secretary signed agreement for land exchange that will allow construction of road between king cove and all-weather airport in cold bay, something the obama administration blocked because of concerns on impact of wildlife refuge. what do you think about the land swap strategy? guest: land swap strategies can be good, depends on the actual area. when you have an area that is a wilderness area, critical for wildlife habitat, you have to pay attenti