thanks for your time today love talking with the end and we love love talking with you god bless bob shrum is a veteran demesne democratic operative who's worked with many progressive candidates during the last four decades including positions as senior adviser to the presidential campaigns of al gore and john kerry he's presently director of the jesse m. institute of politics at the university of southern california i spoke with him earlier about the prospects of testing a government spending bill doc and his opinion of the current congressional leaders in the democratic party hears that interview watch. ok robert what do you make of the latest stopgap measure funding the government to foot worry eighth well it's it's ridiculous it was the only thing they could get done because the president seems incapable of just sitting down and making a deal i mean he held that meaning at the white house he said you came up with a deal lindsey graham and dick durbin came up with a deal on daca funding some of the border wall came back to him and obviously he talked to other advisers like steven miller