joining m me from the, uh, about-to-llaunch kayak centraras george wolfe, who is coordinator of the loseles river expedition. what is the a appeal fofor you f the l.a. river? >> you know,w, water's such a fundamental t thing, and dear tus, and nenecearary fo alall of us. . and so, we feel e that we're just kind of, y you know, fighting this f fight for--for everybody, including e e armyorpsps, and the county, a and the city. >> 4 out the 52 miles are designated as "traditional navigable waterway." but they'll tell you it's perfectly navigable. but you can't put a boat in it. >> 4 being... >> right, because it's an incompatible and unsafe activity, what you're doing. >> yeah, and didn't you love that phrhrasing? >> i think there's an, uhuh, innate appeal to this notion of, you know, fighting for whatt peopople reay y knows ththeirs. >> well, and here we are,, finally. ultimately, we hope that this trip willll raise consciousnesss about the l.a. river. even on the way here, i was stuck in traffic, and i was thinking "i can't wait to get to that river..." >> [laughing] >> "and get my feet