. >> i'm charles mistner, member of senior and disability action, retired federal employees. i would certainly second what maria said there. i'm a healthy senior. i've been retired for 13. better health than i've been because of a physical exercise program and i can work. there are many seniors like myself, who have major disabilities but otherwise capable of producing something in society. we have a political problem in this country, not an economic problem. that political problem has created a debt, federal debt, approaching $20 trillion because of the wars primarily. we have a problem in this city with the hospital industry, deciding if they want to throw out the people that are too ill to be taken care of unless it's 24-hour care and they don't want to pay for that. and this hospital industry is making millions of dollars, though they claim they're not for profit. as it was told at the last health board hearing at this issue, the -- no, this was in the supervisors' chambers. sutter healthcare has $14 billion in the bank. 44 executives making over $1 million a year. the la