so just so everyone on the commission is clear, dgo 3.01 is the dgo on dgo. it talks about how dgo's will be amended, added to, what happens to bureau orders when a dgo is passed, what the power and effect of a dgo -- a bill or order can have on a dgo. it's a comprehensive document with a great deal of thought, forward thinking, and it's forward thinking, and it has a type of reform and change. both the doj requested, as well as our own forward-thinking chief, and his department. so with that, i will take the questions. so petra dejesus. >> commissioner dejesus: so i just have a couple of questions. one of the things i remember, when a bulletin has a recommendations, it has to come before this commission within a certain number of days, and i don't think that was being followed. so my concern is if we're going to have a five-year review, i mean, how are we going to assure that it's brought -- any bulletin modifying or substantially modifying a general order is brought within 15 days, because that's one of the criticisms that i remember? >> yeah, that's a good

editing to the dgo? under .3-b, where it says except as required by federal and state law, that last clause, i think, first of all, i don't think it's consistent with other points regarding it -- to me, it feels like a loophole. there is no federal or state law that requires for local law enforcement to enforce or to collaborate with regard to enforcement to federal immigration laws? and i think that this point really undermines a lot of the trusts that we're trying to build with collaboration of the police department of having that clause that except for into these circumstances, because there is no except for. that should be made for, that there is never an opportunity or a chance or an instance of scenario where that collaboration would happen. >> thank you very much. >> and i'm out of time. >> before we go to another -- can i ask a question, i'd like to ask the two commissioners who work odd this if you could respond to that last point. >> yeah. that language is actually taken from the city administr

, but i think the dgo reforms and the dgo updates are defining what -- these communications and making sure we institutionalize some of these processes. it's certainly not acceptable that any time there's a problem, it has to work itself up either to my level or the chief's level, but that's the purpose of doing the reforms with the dgo, but because of the dgo reforms that we're working on, i don't think a week goes by that we're not addressing some of those issues that are going to move things forward into the future. and each time you get dgo to review what we've agreed on or don't agree on, that we've presented to you, it's a huge step forward, not just the work that dpa is dotion, but on behalf of how the community perceives accountablity, and how the community is able to criticize, complain or file an instance with the department. so i don't know if that answers your question. >> thank you, director hicks. please call the -- i mean, director henderson, i'm sorry. >> item 3-c, commission reports, commission president's reports, commission reports. >> commission president turman is

how are they going to pass reform measures through the dgo unless we pass them? so we will take up those issues and the mou at another time once it has been calendared and properly placed for discussion. despite what you might have read, there is no oversight taken up over this police department by the d.o.j. commissioner melara. >> on page 4 number 3 at the top. >> the document has not been circulated publicly and it will be calendared for discussion. next question. commissioner hirsch. >> are we going to be asked to approve the document? >> the document is not calendared for discussion. it will be taken up during our next meeting. next question. >> you know, i just want to say if you don't mind thank you for clarifying. i did hear the attorney general was going to have oversight over the police department and the radio. i was confused. i appreciate the clarification. >> the document has been posted to the d.o.j. site and to the san francisco police department. we cannot comment on the document or recognize it because it has not had a proper posting. anier quest

to continue to work with the consultant through all these different phases of this -- of meeting the dgo changes -- i'm sorry, meeting the doj changes. >> we have to go through a process, commissioner, so we do want to work with a consultant. we can't say it'll be this one, because we have to go through an rfp process, but i think we learned a lot about this process. and what deputy chief connelly didn't mention, we looked at many other police departments, too, the consultants, and we reached out to many other police departments that had strategic plans that we thought were good ones, and reached out to these departments and picked their brains on some of the things to get their plans on board, as well. to answer your question, we plan to use a consultant. we have to go through the prosper city rules. >> thank you. >> thank you very much deputy chief connelly. next presentation, please. >> our next presentation, we have presentation of the limited english proficiency report. >> this evening, i'm going to provide a brief report, which is our annual report on limited english proficiency. b

their part to do what's necessary as well as checking off the boxes, yeah, we've changed a couple of dgo's, we're alternated that. those are hard, cold facts, but how are we going to move this department in a way that's going to change. >> multipronged answer. i can answer that. three of the groups have a multiplan that they're going to develop that will go under this umbrella. in their strategy, they have to develop the answers that you're asking to the questions that you're asking. so while the strategic plans in those groups may not have the hard numbers associated with it. it should have the spirit and the influence to actually create it. >> do those groups have goals and timelines of when we'they' going to meet this eir objecti? this is going to be an ongoing kind of thing. we're not going to say we have five new promotional groups, and thent

>> if we are dgoing to cct a successful fight against terrorism and if at the end of today we would likeo prevail, then we should use correct strategies. we should be very careful in terms of cosing ourartners on the ground. you cannot fight successfully a terrorist organization by making use of another terrorist thorganization. is the mistake that the american administration is doing for the time being in syria. y.p.g. is a terrorist organization. so, in fact, they sa say ray ras liberated by the y.p.g., the terrorist organization in raqqa have been substituted. look at theesources of humanitarian organizations, amnesty international, they're enumerating all e efforts of ethnic cleansing and slaughter ofhidren, running contrary to each of the principals the united states standsor, yet the united states opts for working with y.p.g., y.d. and even in your intro you have stated them ar a part the united states. >> woodruff: with such a greement here, how much damage has been done? how much is the u.s.-turkey relationship weakened by this? >> well, i mean, i believe that the u.s. public opin