years ago if this statue had been built, it woulden have been a priest, it would have been franklin deleanor roosevelt. it and it wouldn't have been an indian, it would have been the native american, it would have been japanese-american. and it wouldn't have been a vicaro, it would have been just the general public. if the statue were made today, that young man on the ground would be gay. and there would be a priest and there would be a mormon elders and there would be the evangelical prod -- protestants and john q. public looking around. and he said to me, look, you have to realise that what this is telling you is that the horrible things can happen. and have happened in this country. and too often there is an indifferent public and young man, you can't be indifferent. he said and every time you go by this, that is what you have to think about. and so that is how i approached this. i'm -- i don't think that that monument honours the terrible things that happened to native americans. i don't think it celebrates the terrible things that happened. i think it is there to warn us that these terrible thing