k.t. mcfarland got nominated. was flat out asked in her confirmation hearing if she had discussed conversations with general flynn. she had, of course, the transition team e-mails that mueller obtained proved that she had done so but she told the senate that she had not. and in any other administration that would be an above the fold scandal for a long time, right? ambassador nominee and former deputy to disgrace national security advisor lies to senate is exposed by e-mails, the presidential transition didn't know would ever be handed over to prosecutors. you can see this spinning. you can m make g imagine in the this goes on for awhile. in any other administration, that's what it would be. because this is our life, i wonder if she'll go back to fox. do they have a spot on the weekend? that's one. the head of the ccdc resigned. the hud secretary used his job to steer business to his son and daughter-in-law and welcoming an investigation. the health secretary had to resign. congress didn't blink at that, didn't pr

k.t. mcfarland and forwarded e-mails from tom bosser during the transition that did hint at a conversation flynn had. it's very possible you didn't read the e-mails, nobody knows. did you know -- when did you know that michael flynn did speak to the russians about the sanctions issues? when did you find that out? >> well, i can't really get into all of that, because some of that is classified. what i can tell you is that there was never a time from the moment that this issue came up until the moment that we discovered that it wasn't necessarily true, there was never a time that michael flynn denied, in other words, every time michael flynn was confronted with the question of did you or did you not talk about sanctions, he denied it. and he denied it over and over and over again. >> there's one, in fact, the president's lawyer said the following, this is "the new york times," that mr. cobb said that mr. trump did not know that mr. flynn had discussed sanctions with mr. kislyak in the call. after the inauguration, flynn specifically denied it to the witnesses, were you one of the witnesses?