. >> full house in new york city today, joining me is matt hornback, kathy jones and mike. , it went well. $258 billion. matt: we knew about the supply from a year ago. here it is, the treasury market did a really nice job handling the supply. when you're talking about supplying impact on the market, in the grand scheme of things, the flow impact is very small. there is a cottage industry of hedge funds that try to monetize these will impact and their so microscopic that it takes a lot of people to try to pick up just a few ticks in the market. >> numbers have been significant. some of these issues have been unprecedented in size. we are not talking about the bond apocalypse. there is a of fear about the deficit by some fringes of the market, do you think it is overdone? kathy: i think supply will be an issue. it is not going to end. we are going to have to absorb a lot of supply but otherwise we haven't had that challenge over the last couple of years. i think it will continue to push rates up. we will see them to continue to grind higher. >> i think when treasuries hit to