host: matt thorne, president and ceo of sldn. you can find matt on twitter at matt_thorn. on the washington journal tomorrow, will be joined by the author who wrote "the face of president trump." we will also be joined by a student at marjory stoneman douglas high school. yout now, c-span is taking to coverage of the national governors association. state governors are meeting here in washington to see this weekend for their annual winter meeting. throughout the day, the association will host panels to talk about jobs, the opioid crisis, as well as to talk about the future of agriculture. coverage starts here on c-span. [background noise]

matt thorne, president and ceo of out serve on the pentagon's transgender true policy. be sure to watch "washington journal," live at 7:00 eastern on saturday morning. join the discussion. the american conservative union is hosting its annual conservative political action conference this week just outside washington, d.c. we will show some of the speakers from yesterday, getting with epa administrator scott pruitt. >> we had to get that right. >> we are all jealous of larry's voice. >> that is exactly right. >> you remember the president's cabinet, come to washington, d.c., but there is a story that goes before that and it has nothing to do with policy. it has to do with baseball. a superstar athlete. baseball and football. a division i scholarship to the university of kentucky, a career that did not go exactly where you would have liked baseball wise, but you became an owner. >> spring has begun, so that is good news. everyone is optimistic this time of year. everyone believes they can win the world series. after all, if the cubs can win it a few years ago, anyone can.

matt thorne, president and ceo of out serve on the pentagon's transgender true policy. be sure to watch "washington journal," live at 7:00 eastern on saturday morning. join the discussion. the american conservative union is hosting its annual conservative political action conference this week just outside washington, d.c. we will show some of the speakers from yesterday, getting with epa administrator scott pruitt. >>

matt thorne, president and ceo about serve sld and on the pentagon's transgender troops policy. be sure to watch a c-span's washington journal live at 7:00 a.m. eastern saturday morning or join the discussion. .. and this weekend on afterwords tara westover talks about her survival in the ohio mountains and her introduction to education at the age of 17. fox news media host howard kurtz discusses the relationship between the media and the trump administration. emily chang describes the culture in silicon valley, white house reporter paul brandis offers a history of the presidency and the pan-american literary awards given annually since 1963 recognizes books in a range of categories from biography and science writing 2 essays. that is this weekend on booktv. 48 hours of nonfiction books and authors, television for serious readers. for a complete schedule visit booktv.org and follow along in our social media accounts, facebook, twitter and instagram as booktv. we kick off indiana university law school professor gerard magliocca's history of the bill of rights. >> hey, you guys. [

thorne worked with rachel brand as a clerk for supreme court justice anthony kennedy, justice analyst matt miller a former chief spokesperson for the department of justice under president obama. let me start with you, harry. knowing rachel brand, having been very high up in a political position at the doj, what do you make of this? >> look, what i don't make of it is that the walmart offer was just irresistible and she couldn't say no. i mean, in terms of why she left, there's a sort of divide in washington between the kind of credentialed conservatives and the traditional stripe and then the kind of trump infidel. she's very much in the first camp and that correlates with people who would be more likely to resign than top fire bob mueller. but for her, you know, there's a lot of reports how miserable it is to work there. i think that's right. it's miserable not just day to day there but in the whole sort of dinner party circuit. her the people she you know goes around town with they know and think that the president is a repellent figure. she has to sort of defend working for this kind of