joining us now is a representative from eight mrc. thank you for being with us, this morning.ve you had that this is a problem that customers have been experiencing? we have had quite a bit of information from action fraud, who have told us that very sadly about 1500 people have fallen victim to this fraud. mainly people who are over 65, and very sadly be lost each customer has been about £1150. lastly, we had of an elderly gentleman, aged 81 that he had fallen foul of this camera a couple of times and had lost £20,000 as pa rt of times and had lost £20,000 as part of that. this is shocking. to think that this kind of expedition is going on under the guise of people being told that they owe the taxman money. let's just people being told that they owe the taxman money. let'sjust widened back if we can, public information access. back if we can, public information a ccess. h ow back if we can, public information access. how is the scam working?‘ customer will get a phone call out of the blue being told that it is from somebody in eight mrc. they will be told that there is a tax

the elderly victim assumes that the h mrc person is genuine, they say go down to your and —— retailergenuine, they say go down to your and —— retailer and by these itunes vouchers. then read out the number to us over the phone. what happens is, the ugly person thinks that has hung up the phone —— the elderly person thinks they have hung up but hasn't. the remains on the line, wait to come through, then takes the numberand wait to come through, then takes the number and disappears. they use that to buy things that you've effectively paid for? you buy very expensive stuff on itunes but not just songs but hardware like a macbook. h mrc are bringing this to everyone's attention because a lot of people have been affected, as angela mcdonald told you earlier. since 2016, about 1500 people have fallen victim to this fraud. it's mainly people who are over 65 but very sadly the loss for each customer has been about £1150. and last week, we had of an elderly gentleman aged 81 who had fallen foul of this scam a couple of times and had lost £20,000 as part of that. it's a fascinating and worrying

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this all according to mrc research, mainstream media evening news spent 250 seconds covering friday's market drop, but only 88 seconds covering dow 26,000, and dow 26,000 milestones. we have robin biro. they want to focus more on the trump bad news than on the good news, right? >> of course. that is really interesting, those of us who cover business news and who pay attention to the market, you understand this is just all a part of it, right? the news comes in cycles and once you crest a wave you will go back down, et cetera. we know this for them to make this the biggest story of the week is ridiculous. everyone watches markets and knows that for average everyday american, why provoke extra economic anxiety that we're doing well? david: robin on other hand, four 1/2% drop is huge. this is big downturn. tough cover it. the question whether they will put it all on trump. whether they put it on the other factors charlie gasparino and i were talking about, what do you think? >> david i think it is blatantly unfair to pin this solely on donald trump. anybody that knows better, knows the p