nina trentmann from the wall street journaljoins me now. to the to with, shall we?n astonishing story in terms of figures from the daily telegraph about the amount of money that the nhs does pay—out in compensation and where it is taking it. yeah, rather extraordinary claims in the daily telegraph that if the nhs had to pay out all current claims, it would amount to billions of pounds, which is up from the amount paid out in 2015. this comes on the back of a change in the law and there are a number of groups, the nhs confederation, the british medical foundation, and the academy of medical colleges is saying we need to be further changes to that law in order to make sure that these pay—outs are restricted and that there is a on these. interestingly, 37% pay—outs go to lawyers, which i thought was something was high. which they probably think should be much higher. it is the huge amount of money, isn't it? i thought it was interesting that because of the drop in interest rates, that has to be taken into in interest rates, that has to be ta ken into account in interes