four expert groups mandated by the government to come up with a solution to avoid an all out these o'beirne. this suggestion that german taxpayers should partake in any of the costs of upgrading dirty diesels has sparked consternation many people in germany believe it's car makers responsibility to bear the entire cost of reducing emissions. but it's unclear how far carmakers are willing to go forth for example still reeling from revelations achieved an emissions test has questioned the idea or perhaps more likely the expense of installing new hardware c.e.o. saying we are in general ruling out hardware upgrades not only due to the effort that would be required but also because of questions over its effectiveness. germany has come under increasing pressure from the e.u. to improve air quality the government is exploring a variety of measures to reduce pollution that with the image of the car industry already badly damaged the idea that taxpayers should bear any financial burden for dirty details is not going down well in many quarters. of more on this let's bring in our financial correspond

we had a science festival so we go places where the sciences has some connection and connection o'beirne with fifty years and adversity of apollo so it was straight forward so that there was no doubt that this is the city we have to. next first first some people might say no one's interested in the moon nasa certainly doesn't appear to be interested in the moon donald trump arguably maus. why is the importance of the anniversary of the moon still i think important is seven reasons first the moon landing was a great inspiration for an entire generation of scientists an artist at the core of this is still here and there are still many people it was so hard so difficult that many people today don't believe even that. you can replace the becomes like a me that was two thousand years ago as of the so it's really not too many of those . but it was a challenge and it was also very interesting to see men walking on a different planet or different you never happened in history and why and what happened and why in six seven years that managed to do that for the space race and all those things it's

say we're joined by firefighters mike dowden, chris secret, tom abell, mike kirkpatrick and justin o'beirneere are still lots of emotion from many of our colleagues. it is something we will have to deal with and move forward. as doing a marathon helps us deal and process events which we witnessed. we need to move forward in a positive direction and have something to work towards. let me take you back to when you got that call, if i can. did any of you have a sense of the scale of what you were going to be confronted with? when we turned up to that particular fire, at first it was something we deal with regularly. in a short amount of time it became something unbelievable. we just did ourjob which we normally do on the night. unfortunately the world saw what happened. when you are confronted with that, clearly you go into professional mode. it is a human, instinctive reaction, isn't it? there is you are right. at the time you don't really consider what is going on around you. it is about getting on with yourjob and doing what needs to be done. on that night, it was something no one had faced