telling russian news service is that they saw a flaming plane coming out of the sky and early reports suggested that perhaps the plane had collided with a helicopter operated by the russian postal service shortly after takeoff now the press for russian for the russian postal service has just put out a statement basically saying this had nothing to do with them they actually don't have any helicopters in their fleet so that seems to put that theory to bed for the moments but yeah it's too soon to say what's made this plane crash the trajectory data that is available on open source sites on the internet showed that this plane did fall out of the sky pretty quickly fairly precipitously and it's lost speed at a significant rate so investigators are already at the scene looking into what might of brought it out of the sky and would have to wait for further information on that what's the safety record of the aircraft itself and of the operator in this case. i can tell you that a the moments i mean i have to say you know russian airplanes and lines have in the past have a terrible record for safety certainly through the ninety's and into the early two thousand spots they have moderniz

now one of them was that this plane could have crashed into a helicopter operated by the russian postal service well that was fairly quickly dismissed by the russian post postal services or they didn't actually have any any helicopters there could tooth something like that the facts that this plane seems to be burning when it came down will be something of course that the the investigators are looking into the fact that it pretty much disintegrates it will be something of course that the investigators will be looking at. it could have been the weather the weather has been bad here today but it's not atrociously bad so i mean certainly it's weather that i have experienced when i've been taking off on previous flights here in russia our experience worse but the weather could have played a plate of facts of the if the investigators are trying to find the grounds crew at domodedovo airport that predicts this particular flight they're also trying to speak to the air traffic controllers as well all of these people might be able to give the investigation some clue as to what happened all right thanks

potential for a midair collision with a helicopter that has now been ruled out at least by the russian postal service now that came in about two hours ago initially it seemed to be almost key but again it was quickly dismissed what came in all that the eyewitnesses describe seeing a large amount of mail and post-up the crash site scattered over a wide area as well as debris from some sort of other aircraft potentially a helicopter leading to that speculation that there could have been some sort of interaction some sort of incident involving a post the russian. midair collision potentially that's what was being said another post of russia have released a statement saying in that region they have no helicopters belonging to them at all . and i suppose a regional flyer like this russia such a huge country russia post all just to get posed to run any kind of mail depends on planes depends on flying it around doesn't it so i suppose this plane very normally could have been carrying just domestic policy while the other thing that the post of russia confirmed was that there was about twenty kilos of poster