and we're back with sean young wolf former national security advisor to the president of south korea discussing both saw and the enter a korean relation and whether it's going to last a massacre i'm your main thesis seem to be the north korea needs to denuclearize completely and immediately well i recently spoke to us former secretary of defense william perry who went on a historic was a tipsy on yon in ninety nine and his diplomacy almost resulted in a deal back then but it fell apart soon afterwards well he told me it's now too late to make north korea get rid of their nuclear weapons and maybe it's it's time to recognize a new. nuclear north korea and just live with it. well in my view desk very irresponsible of if he really said that i think it's very irresponsible. of him. whoa we know that north korea attaches great importance highest importance to nuclear armament and the only thing a very few more than nuclear weapons this is survival so i would admit that is more difficult to denuclearize most graham now than when bill perry was a special envoy or defense secretary yes there