tzipi hotovely, who you mentioned, avigdor lieberman, who you mentioned, who is a settler himself, bytrying to make sure that there'll never be palestinian freedom. there will never be any ability for palestinians to do exactly what my ancestors did, create a homeland for themselves. in your heart, do you accept this is a battle you're not going to win? you can fight it, and you're determined to, but you're not going to win. i think we'll have to wait and see. we'll end there. avner gvaryahu, thank you very much for being on hardtalk. thank you. thanks forjoining me. time we updated you on the weather prospects for the whole of the british isles for the next few days or so. wednesday started in a pretty wild and woolly way across the north—western quarter of scotland. as ever, our weather watchers were there to capture the evidence for us, but things improved dramatically. come a little further south, not far really, troon beach and ayrshire. the difference, you had to get rid of this big old weather front which really made a difference. started dry enough across the eastern side of t

it comes to the point made by another minister, deputy minister of foreign affairs, tzipi hotovely, who her description of you — "a subversive organisation based on lies that is actively trying to besmirch israel's good name and that of the idf." so i would say, and this is where i think hotovely is the best example — hotovely is basically calling for a de facto one state that will become an apartheid. and hotovely is supporting not the state of israel or its soldiers, but the occupation. and what we're trying to besmirch, and we are trying to besmirch something, is not israel, but the occupation itself. but the point is, as a citizen of israel, you've every right to whatever political opinion you want to hold, but what the critics of your organisation see is a group that actually tries to win recruits from the serving idf, and which undermines the coherence, the unity of israel's most important institution. just this last week, we published a book of testimonies. i have it here. and we published an entire collection of soldiers that choose to explain why they broke their silence. for t