zalina maxwell is foreign director for the hillary clinton campaign, and rick tyler is co-founder of foundry strategies. rick, let me start with you. the president tried to play, at least for a evening, that he wanted to unify, bring us all together, let's come together around immigration and find a solution and infrastructure. and the subtle message even in the state of the union was to almost criminalize dreamers, almost making them one with gang members and the subtle attacks he couldnattacks. he couldn't resist going after the nfl and i'm going to talk to jamil in the next segment. he couldn't resist anot acting presidential. >> we knew he wouldn't act presidential. i don't think he understands the idea of a unified country. what it would mean is everyone would agree with him. but he just has no capability, no capacity to bring people together or find common ground on policy issues. i do think you're right. i think immigration is a problem that's imminently solvable. all the pieces are there, it just needs leadership to put them together, but the president finds a way to divide.