bilal is one of the men working in bradford's nurseries.ears teacher. we do a lot of sessions that are particularly designed for dads. we want them to be integrated with the rest of the nursery, so how we do that is by the male practitioners and even the female practitioners making a conscious effort, you know, trying to get the dads involved, talking to them, engaging with them in conversations, meaningful conversations. so you about to start training to become a practitioner. tell us what your journey was. my daughter used to come to this nursery, saint edmunds. when i saw bilal here, he was young and doing something about it and dealing with kids, and i thought to myself, i have never seen anyone doing this, and this basically touched me in terms of that i could think about coming to the sector. i have got more into it and been doing voluntary work with saint edmunds and came up with the idea that this is something i can do. it is often said there is a stigma around men coming into this role. how important was it for you to have someone