there's a great gloria steinem quote which is that "it's all fine and good that we're raising our daughters right, but let's also bring up our sons to be good men." and so, in my book, i do talk about various ways that you can do that. the first is that men have to -- husbands, fathers -- have to model the right behavior. the second things is that we have to start to encourage that male and female leadership attributes, that things that are traditionally defined as a strong leader or a great leader, traditionally, that's been mapped to traditional, conventional male attributes of assertive, aggressive, go get 'em, right? and female attributes tend to be stereotypically described as nurturing, collaborative, communicative, and we have to start modeling behavior that both of those or a blend of both of those is 100% acceptable. >> i have to tell a heartening story here. i have a now-24-year-old son who happens to have a twin sister, and two years ago, i was in the kitchen, and boys were home from college, and there were at least 10, maybe 12, of my son's friends, all boys, in the kitchen. and

and then if i met women like gloria steinem working with feminist who demanded a certain separation and justified in what i had been and done and i would say but never mortified but somehow in light about the next generation of what wouldn happen next. [applause] a man is asking a question. >> my name is james nevin. >> are you my father? we have the same name (so if we had met before and we got married would you call yourself sheila nevins nevins? [laughter] i have to think about this like women using their maiden name? what do you want? what you asking me? will you marry me? >> am already. >> i love ireland i read your biography b and it seems like her ancestors are from russia. >> yes my father was born in russia i am an'm immigrant what do you think of what is going on? >> she just asked me that question don't you listen to women? [laughter] didn't you just asked that question? you are so busy rehearsing your question? >> i like you. you bought my book but i have to say i just answer that asked me another question no i will not marry you and i would not call myself nevins nevin's. [

and then as and that women like gloria steinem and working with feminist that demanded a certain kindequality i think i felt justified what i had been and done and i would say never mortified but somehow enlightened about the next generation. that is as honest as i can be. [applause] inequity ms. james. >> are you my father? you have the same name i have. [laughter] >> if we got married would you call yourself sheila nevins? [laughter] >> i have to think about this like talk about women using their maiden name? what do you want? [laughter] what you asking me? >> will you marry me? >> i'm already married i love ireland. >> in your biography yes i'm jewish i'm from russia my father is an immigrant. >> more serious note. >> to listen to women? she just asked me that question. [laughter] [applause] did you just asked that question? that is what men do. i like you. you bought my book but i just answer that asked me another question now i would not call myself nevins nevins and i will not marry you. [laughter] [applause] >> how did you make a decision? >> why couldn't i do both? >> was ther

mean, i think i may have it in the book that i said i was early by helen and as i met women like gloria steinemd with feminists and women who demanded a certain kind of separation inequality i think that i felt justified when i had been in done and i would say never mortified but somehow enlightened about the next generation about what happened next. that is as honest as i can be cut back a man is considered question. okay. >> my name is james nevins -- >> we have the same name. are you my father? [laughter] >> i was wondering if we had that before we got married when you call yourself sheila nevins nevins. [laughter] >> i have to think about this. you know what i call myself? are you like the women using the maiden names and you want your wife to be -- what you want? [laughter] what are you asking me? >> will you marry me? >> i'm already married. >> my family is an island. >> i love island. >> looking at your biography it seems like your ancestries are from russia. >> yes, i'm jewish and from russia. my father was born in russia. i'm an immigrant. >> on a more serious subject, what you think o

was, i think them if you have book i said i was a gurley by halliburton when i met women like gloria steinem women who he managed separation and equality, i think i felt justified in what had been an done, and i would say never mortified, but somehow enlightened about the next generation of what would happen next. that's as honest as i can be. [applause] >> a man is asking a question. >> my name is james nevins speedy you have the same name as i do. are you my father? [laughing] >> i'm a bit perhaps a shame. i was one if we met before and if we get married would you call yourself sheila nevins nevins? [laughing] i have to think about this. you know what i call myself? are you like the women using their maiden names? you want your life to be like get -- what do you want? [laughing] >> what are you ask me? >> do you want to get married? >> i'm already married. >> my ancestors are from galilee yet in ireland. >> i love ireland. >> looking at your biography and it seems like your ancestries are from russia. >> yes. i'm jewish. from russia. my father was born in russia. i'm an immigrant. >> on a

as an example in gloria steinem in 1993 when kay bailey hutchinson running for texas, steinem calledt has been generally a threat what makes us important, what makes us who we are, is going to be erased if you don't pay allegiance to the liberal point of view. these days, it is something for all of us, becomes ingrained in us we attack people we don't agree with. we are certainly working to get out of that. right now we can disagree. you can have difficult points of view. it is not about smearing or defraying that individual with whom you disagree, particularly other women. but that is the threat to the left, ainsley. is that women realizing there is a different way to think about things, you can think differently about policy. you can have a different point of view. you can be a republican or you can be an independent, that is it all right. that is a threat to what the left wants to do as it co-opted women's issues. ainsley: can't believe she was a woman that ran and i kept hearing women were for a woman becoming president, just the right one. >> that feminist idea took hold, as ind