jesse burns, associate editor at "the hill.", and this is supposed to resonate in those places? >> well, yeah, those are the blue wall states, the states for years, sometimes decades, were reliably blue, now trump is stoking support. manufacturing bases, trying to say, look, i'm the same candidate that ran in 2016, looking forward to the american worker, putting america first and trying to stoke the same things again a couple of years away from re-election. >> shepard: does he have concerns the people who live in knows states, like the ones everywhere else, may see higher costs on products if a trade war begins? >> that is one of the concerns that we're seeing from republicans. of course the republican party is largely free trade party, orthodoxy for years has been to push back on such steve tariffs that trump is advocating. in areas like wisconsin, we see harly davidson, paul ryan's home state, is based there. one of the resources that the european union is starting to impose tariffs on if trump goes through with these steel im