ordinary people who go to their savings banks because their pension fund portfolio includes shares of rye mittal something that you and i wouldn't immediately think of that kind of connection but going back to the tax revenue which of course plays a big role but when we talk about. ryan mittal and some of the companies doing that to outsourcing and having subsidiaries for example in south africa in saudi arabia in the united arab emirates they're not only at here of course to the norse there when it comes to exploiting weapons but also to tax laws and that means that all paying tax to the german government so many dimensions from the business perspective to the story concert didn't do you not consider weapons in germany is always a hugely controversial issue we have the opposition left fati complaining bitterly about the sale of weapons to saudi arabia and we also have the green party talking about the state setting weapons to tookie so how do you see this developing yes indeed it is very controversial and obviously when you export workmen's you conder really predict what's going to happen with