and he does say other organizations including potential the bar association. i don't see community stakeholders on this list. so i am >> so as i discussed the community stakeholder piece if ewith include the number and variety of perspectives that would haver to represented on this committee, we would have a 50-person task force. and still wouldn't -- and i felt like it still wouldn't be a sufficient representation of the kind of input, so we are looking to the executive sponsor working group which has over 88 members that have been represented at various times and that executive sponsor working group is the first place we will gather input, but in addition to that, the controller's office has done a surveying office and over 500 organizations and 140 of those organizations have actually responded to a survey in which they talked about community policing and how that is affects staffing. >> so i did hear that. what i want to know is you are talking about developing some type of information from the ground floor. how do you get the input from the community on t

good evening. >> good evening, julie tran and behalf of the bar association. i was a member of the use of force working group. i can tell you as mentioned, we considered tasers to be a separate issue to have its own policy should it ever be enacted. i agree with him on that. we're one of the last cities to adopt this weapon therefore we have the opportunity and responsibility to learn what other cities have not learned as we have undertaken this important research. everybody's worked hard on this. this say messy process. i really thank the commissioners for looking at what's been submit and working hard on this together. some great additions have been suggested tonight. thank you for that. there's a couple things i think we might have missed. one, the 40-hours as suggested by kevin benedicto and we overlook overlooked i.e.d.s. it didn't hit your list, president thurman but we added the slides from dr. hing showing seconds truly matter and only officers with an i.e.d. in their vehicles have access to one and the recommendation, i believe on page three, paragrap

isn't there an objection from the bar association. >> yeah. it can't be used for pain compliance, but i forgot, she did point out a conflict -- >> so there's no compromise position that you know of. >> my department didn't offer a compromise, only that it be used to complete the circuit. >> president turman: okay. thank you. chief? >> yes, sir. commissioner, so just to be clear, the policy that this draft policy already addresses the incompliance and is prohibited. so the drive stun mode as is in the policy before us, can be used to complete a circuit as miss marian stated, but also, it has other uses. pain compliance, that is a concern. that's already prohibited. >> okay. >> but if an officer needs to use a drive stunyes. >> president turman:

the bar association abruptly scrapped the deal publicly the a.b.a. says it didn't think the book would sell but received an e-mail from the group offering a different explanation. the reason it gave me an email. that i want to anger attending is a comment when he said that to you what did you think. i think it's. been a terrific clears in china because of my. activities i was banned from teaching. i was despondent i was no kid and disappeared and tortured and american is. the motto of they brought democracy freedom speeds and. how chinese government two months no last me to sentence me. today tom bell is meeting with other exiled activists to hear their stories which but only a few show up those who do explain their friends are too afraid to speak openly. synesthete on top. how i mean. the hook. don't want to die obama you want. everyone here has said family jailed or threatened in china down the years you tell them. that you look. for when you check out a well known chinese blogger the threat has been much closer to day new york the koreans what are

the first witness is current president of the american bar association to voluntary organization with more than 400,000 members and also copresident of the international law firm. a very distinguished career as a litigator and work has been recognized throughout. consistently ranked as the best lawyers of america, legal 500 united states and super lawyers magazine and named by the 2016 by the best lawyers of america and she serves on the firm's executive committee and previously served an eight-year term as the national chair of the 600 member litigation department and is a graduate of the university of miami, i'm sorry, the university of miami board of trustees with a jd from the university of miami school of law. the second witness today is mr. andrew arthur currently serving as a resident fellow in law and policy for the center for immigration studies with a distinguished career working as a trial lawyer and later acting chief for the security division in the office of the general counsel of a former immigration and naturalization service. in 2006 he became an immigration judge ser

it wasn't excluded, it was discussed. >> so i guess i'm looking at the bar association. they were a part of this group. >> yes. >> i assume they're putting it in their draft here, so i'm assuming they didn't agree to this. when you're saying a consensus, was there a vote. >> president turman: yes. there was a majority. we cannot hold this up because of every term. >> i'm wonder, there was a high consensus meeting. how do you reach a consensus? >> i went around, i asked every single stakeholder group, and the department was hardly the driving force here. i conducted the consensus part myself. i'm not revisiting issues already reached consensus. >> okay. i just want to put on the record, the bar association and the mental health association, i'm not sure about dpa, but everybody is asking that this be in there. >> and it's on the record. >> but they raise a pretty good point. >> president turman: okay. >> wait. >> president turman: commissioner ong hing? >> commissioner ong hing: mr. president, tell me if this isn't the proper place to raise this issue, 'cause i'm looking

it is to me such an incendiary moment that i cannot imagine why is the bar association as i asked earliere is the legal profession and the supreme court or someone with integrity and establish standing in your profession standing up here and standing up here as one. whether it is it the supreme court or a ba, i don't know. and say we are not going to tolerate this conduct? >> most major institutions are dominated by liberals and the american bar association that is anti- trump to the core. the judiciary can't do anything until they get involved in the case. i think your instincts to be offended and outraged are good and should be encourage would and what the american people should express themselves that they do not like this and they don't accept it and they that treating the president and his family and his lawyers like common criminals is a disgraceful manifestation of nonprofessional conduct by the department of justice and the fbi. and i have to tell you, lou, i am so furious at rod rosenstein and christopher wray and concluded that they are anti- trumpers and actively engaged in try

where is the bar association as i asked earlier in the broadcast. where is the legal profession?e court and someone with integrity standing up whether it's the aba or supreme court, i don't know, and say we are not going to tolerate this kind of conduct? >> most of of the major institutions in this country are dominated by liberals including the american bar association which i can assure you is anti-trump to its core. the judiciary, they can't do anything until they get involved in a case. your instincts to be offend and outrages are very, very good and they are to be encouraged. i think the american people should express themselves, they do not like this, they won't accept it, and they think treating the president and his family and lawyers as common criminals is nonprofessional conduct by the department of justice and the fbi. i'm so furious at rod rosenstein and christopher wray who have disappeared from the plan of action. i concluded from any doubt that they are both anti-trumpers actively engaged in trying to take down the president of the united states. >> lou, one of the

as everyone knows the freedom to consult counselor choice -- even the american bar association came out in opposition to the rule. they did so based on the concern that it improperly infringed on attorney pop privilege. we have now published a new rule to rescind that rule. the issue is not the cost of compliance. the cost of the paperwork, the issue is one of principle. to we believe the attorney-client privilege should be -- or not. and is it about cost-benefit analysis or should that be the end of the inquiry? i would argue that it should. the guidance i was adopted in the prior administration stated that one business could be liable for the actions of another because they were a joint employer. so tell the story by way of example. one of the best i thought was filed by microsoft. in march of 2015 microsoft announce a new corporate responsibility initiative. build a business with large suppliers only if they supplied it with 15 days of paid annual leave. it's microsoft's prerogative to decide who to do business with and to say were only going to do it if they have a more stable suppl

. >> my name is jennifer, i'm a civil rights attorney and speaking on behalf of the filipino bar association of northern california, an organization made up of 400 plus legal professionals and law students. also affiliate of the national filipino american lawyers association. i am here to speak to the events that my colleague terry has talked about about human rights advocate and activist that was tortured at s.f.o. the u.s. constitution prohibits detainment based on creed, national origin, and political beliefs. what happened to jerome abba in part, he was detained because of his muslim background because he comes from a region primarily muslim in the philippines and he came here to the united states to speak about human rights abuses under the administration. this is not just a clear violation of just any law, this is a clear violation of the foundational document of our country and legal system. for the foregoing reasons, what we see here is that a threat to our constitution, a threat to our very democracy, that's why i'm speaking on behalf of a bar association that represents our communi

hilarie bass from the american bar association, more than 400,000 members. she's also co-president of the international law firm greenberg trorig, did i pronounce that correctly. she's been a lit gator and her work has been recognized, and the legal guide, best lawyers in america, legal 500 united states and super lawyers magazine. ms. bass has been recently named the lawyer of the year by the 2016-- in 2016 by the best lawyers in america. at greenberg, miss bass serves on the executive committee and previously served an eight-year term as national chair of its 600 litigation member department. she's a graduate of university of miami-- i'm sorry, you're on the university of miami board of trustees and have a jd from the university of miami school of law. our second witness today is mr. andrew arthur. mr. arthur currently serves as a resident fellow in law and policy for the center for immigration studies. he has a distinguished career working as a trial lawyer and later as acting chief of the national security division in the office of the general counsel an

the american bar association, the federal bar association, the american immigration lawyers associationese expert lawyers agree and so do we. the national association of immigration judges. we need to reform the court now to stop these overwhelming pressures from adversely impacting the way we do our jobs in court. >> judge dana leigh marks, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. >>> coming up, rare rebuke. president trump calls out putin by name. putting blame on him and russia for, quote, animal assad, in syria. we'll tell you how moscow is now responding. stay right there. this is frank. sup! this is frank's favorite record. this is frank's dog. and this is frank's record shop. frank knowns northern soul, but how to set up a limited liability company... what's that mean? not so much. so he turned to his friends at legalzoom. yup! they hooked me up. we helped with his llc, contracts, and some other stuff that's part of running a business. so frank can focus on the beat. you hear that? this is frank's record shop. and this is where life meets legal. a trip back to the dthe doct

control, comparing it women.lent deaths among she has not been rated qualified by the american bar association. she has no experience in the federal judicial system that would make her qualified. her only qualifications is she's on the far right of the republican party. >> she supporwasn't willing to where she was on brown versus board of education. this is a fundamental issue in this country. and so we're concerned this administration is putting very, very political nominees in the federal bench that are going to be there for a lifetime. >> i want to talk about the stories that youi recounyour book. you've had quite a life. your mother was the governor of texas, the fire brand that she was. your father is a civil rights attorney. dinner write that you table was never really about eating, it was for sorting precinctlists. what was your earliest memory? >> my pare is wereo every movement that came through town, the farm workers, the women's movement. the most important moment for us was when my mom ran her first campaign ever for the state house. kidse got to be involved and i saw firsthand bot

that's what is meant by very very badly brian kabateck the incoming president of los angeles bar association told the l.a. times you could be the person for the president because you understand trump and trump's head. it's true how did you how did you get that how did you get i know trump forty years in wooldridge how did you get that knowledge. you know larry that's an interesting question i mean you know brian's comments are very kind i don't know if he's right or wrong you know i'm right now i'm doing a job to the very best of my abilities i feel like i do have a unique skill set based on my life experiences that that has allowed me to pursue this case in the way that we have things have worked out very very well for us but it's early i mean if this is the first quarter we're midway through the first quarter of this case there's a lot of football left to play there's a lot of case left to play we don't all to mentally know how this is going to work out so you know while the adulation and the kind words are very much appreciated we're not reading all those headlines and resting on our laur

even the american bar association came out in opposition to this rule. they did so based on the concern that it improperly infringed on client privilege yet the role was published. we have now published a new rule to rescind that rule. here's the thing, the issue there is not the cost of compliance, the cost of the paperwork. the issue there is one of principle, do we believe that attorney-client privilege should be sacrosanct or not. if we do, is it really about cost-benefit analysis or should that be the end of the inquiry? i would argue it should. another example is the guidance that was adopted in the. prior administration that stated one business could be liable for the actions of another because they were a joint employer by virtue of indirect control. i'm going to tell the story by way of example, and one of the best examples that i saw was the brief that was filed by microsoft. in opposition to this i should add. in march 2015, microsoft announced a new corporate responsibility initiative. microsoft would be do business with large suppliers only

>> the american bar is to the type of article one model that's been used. some of the associations proposed a model while others said we should look to the claims court model. we don't take a position because there's all kinds of details about what the differences would be. >> you just want it out of the department of justice. >> correct. we have thousands of judges who would be happy to work with your staff to come up with a specific type of article one court. it would make sense for the immigration judges. what we know is currently we don't believe we are getting the best candidates. we don't believe that there is a high perception of confidence that would end up causing more of appeals. there's just an inherent problems with having a court system within the justice department. >> are decisions made by immigration judges? >> they are appealed to the board of immigration and under section 242 of the nationality act you can also take the petition to one of the court repeals from a position. >> so a performance standard or some requirement imposed by the attorney general on immigrat

here to speak about king and justice, we have the executive director and general counsel of the bar association of san francisco. miss yolanda jackson. [applause] >> good evening, everybody. thank you for taking time out to come and celebrate a man who will forever go down in history as a man who changed lives in this country. he was a drum major for justice. december 5, 1955, in montgomery, alabama where it all began. at a meeting of thousands at the holt street baptist church, a meeting led by the reverend dr. king, to the meeting was to shape the montgomery west boycotts and this meeting came shortly after the arrest of rosa parks, and it came three months following the murder of 14-year-old emmett till. this was the beginning of the movement. to energize and rally black people around the boycott, dr. king stated with power and in front of a vibrant crowd the following. he says there comes a time when people get tired of being trampled over by the iron feet of oppression. there comes a time, my friends, when people get tired of being plunged across the abyss of humiliation, experience the bl

that is strange that we are not hearing a comment from the american bar association and we are not hearing comment from scholars all over the country talking about the constitution, its meaning, its weight and its direction given this contest between congress exercising its responsibilities of oversight and justice in deferring to congress in that role. >> congress has to be more aggressive right now. it's up to individual members like devin nunes on the intelligence committee but the whole leadership needs to get on board here to bring back these agencies and their oversight for the american people. it can't be a one man band and congress trying to herd these gigantic agencies. all of congress needs to reform itself so can provide appropriate oversight and i get upset lou every time i hear the fbi and justice department talk about their independence. go for your wallet when he heard government agencies talking about independence. that's an agency that does someone to be accountable to the american people. lou: by the way and soler laid the fact that the state department considers itself.

general hu assistant attorney general, and coo of the aba, not american bar association, the american bankers association. along with former governor frank keating of oklahoma. land office of oklahoma, coo of the american council of life insurance, acli. he served as the oklahoma secretary of state and was chief of staff to then congressman jc watts. i like jc's first name, by the way. and was general counsel of the oklahoma corporation commission so done lot. great to have you here and joined by general lundgren. let me try out a general open-ended question first for you to comment on. and bring up anything else you have on your mind. but what are your top, you know, two or three top of mind issues in arkansas and in oklahoma? we'll start with you, leslie. >> thank you, jc, and thank you to the republican national lawyers for hosting today's panel and inviting the republican attorneys general, mike and i to be here with you all this morning. as jc mentioned i've known lot of you all over the years and for me it's sort of like coming back to see friends and family. kind of like old ho

i'm the president of the american bar association and co-president of the law firm of greenberg, troja. we appreciate this opportunity to share our views on improving immigration courts. the aba has an interest in the health of all of our nation's courts. as you know, the immigration adjudication system faces significant challenges, including a historically high caseload that is backlogged. this has largely been due to an ongoing imbalance between funding for enforcement and adjudication. frustrations abound on all sides. while we applaud that congress has provided funding for additional judge teams for the past several years we believe fundamental change is needed. the aba recommends that congress establish an article i court for immediate removal adjudication. the ab commission on immigration issued a report in 2010 on reforming the immigration system. as part of that process the study group identified goals that should be met as part of any restructuring and we selected three different court models to compare. the four goals were identified as independence, immigration judges at bot