transfer let's bring in doug flynn, it a flynn capital management. he comes in to talk about what could be an all-out trade war with china. your thoughts, doug. >> this is part of the negotiation going on. you're actually watching the process in action in the markets don't really like that. they want it covered to the tracing it to the bottom line. this is all a big part of getting the ultimate deal that they want, which is to get a fair deal for the united states. that's where we are going with this ultimately and that is what is causing the nerve-racking reaction we have right now. lauren: we can escape is volatility. you either have the threat of regulation by the tech companies are the tit-for-tat in terms of trade affecting how markets are react to. with sub $50 billion on their good. china responds with the same amount. are the chinese tariffs getting to the heart of the problem for to accept intellectual trade property and secrets? >> in the end you will get to the point that we do end up getting some movement on not, which has been a horrible

"bullseye brief" author and founder adam johnson, and capital management co-founder doug flynn. good to see you both. look we talk about tariffs at length, adam. i'm not terribly worried by them. doesn't seem the market is terribly worried by them either. why are they not able to be that concerned? >> nope. it is all about negotiations. if you rook back at the original steel and aluminum tariffs they immediately created a carveout for canada and mexico. guess what, canada, mexico account for 30% of all the steel and aluminum we import. it was never about going after japan. it was never about creating a true barrier. it was about raising the stakes going into the nafta negotiations. we see this time and time again. the bark is worse than the bite. the markets get past that. trish: do you agree with that, doug? >> i agree. we saw the chief salesperson of the united states it is all about making the united states a safer place and all about the negotiating process. i agree quite a bit. trish: would you say this is a good thing? this is what the u.s. needs to be doing? >> why we put