. >>> to break down the headlines, let's turn to our panel, josh barrow, senior editor at "business insider" and sarah westwood" washington correspondent for "the washington examiner." thank you for joining us. josh, i want to get your reaction to trump's tweet, the governors of new mexico, arizona, texas, all republicans, are backing the deployment. but we have yet to hear from california governor jerry brown. what do you make of that? >> i imagine they want to find out what the troops will do and the nature of the commitment. this is not that unprecedented. the president started talking about this saying he was going to send the military to the mexican border which sounded like a very strange thing for a domestic deployment. when you use the national guard, george w. bush and barack obama ordered this at various points for the national guard to act in a support role, supporting the border patrol by doing things like surveillance. this is not that unusual a thing for the president to do. obviously he wants to demonstrate that he's taking action with regard to the border. this is something

or panel for the next 50 four minutes, annie lins sky and msnbc contributor josh barrow. thank you all for being here. john, let me start with you. it has been so secret that vote vets and donald trump have not always seen eye to eye had the where do you stand on the nom maftion jack sond at stories that have come out over the last two days? >> i think we stood where we stand last month. he was completely unprepared. is a medical doctor who treats patients and has never led a major organization in his entire career. he was unprepared to deal with the complexities at the department of veterans affairs. i think more importantly what's happened over the last 24 hours is concerning. it is true that there's extreme vetting when you get promoted in the military, but that doesn't mean that there wasn't any type of misconduct from the admiral while he was over at the white house. and so going off of what we heard in senator tester on the lead, the navy needs to investigate this immediately. if will is some type of misconduct that's happened, that could preclude him from moving fo

josh barrow, a sharp business writer for "business insider" wrote a column taking issue with that number, which, again, is raising the question of, like, whose numbers are right and what's the cost? but that's, i think, where trump got the number. >> do you have a number in mind that you think is right? >> no. no. i'm trained to look for data, to assess data before opening my mouth. my mouth. i know it is unusual in this time. no i do not. >> tom is in hollywood, florida. >>. >> caller: i want to comment on certain things. why would you tell everybody what you are doing with them. big business keep these things secret. number two, possibly, when they entered in this agreement with amazon, the numbers were favorable to -- people don't realize that much of the mail and parcels are going ton aircraft and raising the rates on cargo as well. so that's a factor. gasoline is a factor with all their vehicles. like mr. kosar said, the huge organization have lots of costs. they have been making an effort to try to get a handle on this and i don't believe the numbers are losing $1.50 a parcel. they

i got my hands on josh barrow, a sharp business writer for business insider taking issue with that numberagain, is the question of like whose numbers are right and what i thinkost, but that is where trump got the number. host: do you have a number in that you think is right? guest: no, i'm trained to look data before ess opening my mouth. i know it is unusual in this no, i do not. host: tom in hollywood, florida, democrat, good morning. caller: good morning. i want to point out a few things commenting people aren't thinking about things like why would you, if you had a were doingerate, you business with, why would you tell everybody what your deal is with them? businesses typically keep these things secret. they two, possibly when entered into this agreement with more , the numbers were favorable to, people don't realize much mail and parcels are going on aircraft, airlines this een raising rates more last year possibly on cargo, as well, so that is a factor. factor with the -- all the vehicles. hey are like mr. kevin kosar said, huge organization, have lots of costs. they have been makin