the company, gandys, designs and sells travel clothing, including flip—flops.eople. it has a projected turnover of $2.15 million this year. and of the profits, 10% will go into their charity orphans for orphans. rob, one of the brothers, joins us in the studio. you have some of your fli p—flo ps in the studio. you have some of your flip—flops to show us. get them out, well we are chatting. it was sunny today coming in, i could wear them and not worry! tell us, when did you start this company? when you were both in sri la nka company? when you were both in sri lanka you were 11 and 13? we were 11 and 13 when we left to go travelling, we spent about four yea rs travelling, we spent about four years volunteering around india. then we went across to sri lanka, that was when we were caught up in the tsunami, by that point it had been about four years, so we were 17 and 13, ala younger brother and sister were 11 and eight. there was for others in sri lanka caught up in this toon army and had to get home. —— there was four of us. this toon army and had to get home. --

julie gandy said we wanted anyway. i can understand that partly, we're so used to having things taken away from us, from giving less and less medical care or services because our insurance company doesn't want us to have them, that we are naturally suspicious. >> host: do you think they're doing it for financial reasons rather than sound medical reason? >> guest: sure. >> host: it's true. so finding that balance seems to be very difficult for people. and i can tell you that the stories that we run in the times that are about health are always extremely popular. people seem to really gravitate towards every little thing, and now there's a movement to i think bring back hormone replacement therapy, which is really kind of distressing because it seems like the women's health initiative was a very complete kind of study but there's now an incredible -- >> guest: i've read about it. >> host: it goes on. i'd know what's going to happen but what about you? what gives you hope? what you think is going to happen come november?