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i think you are asking me that when gary cohn left he was concerned about this?ents of amazon. she gone now. what does that mean? >> that may be a factor in terms of why the president feels he has a free hand to do this. but the truth is there ought to be people in the white house particularly counsel to the president cautioning him that the traditions of the white house are such that a president doesn't try to use power for his n benefit. i believe that is what he is doing. so there is really responsibility on other officials to persuade him to rein this in. >> the journalists at the "washington post" are the best of the best and will never stray away from just reporting the facts as they are. >> thank goodness. >> nice to have you. >>> an advocacy group is pushing to get more young people to vote in the 2018 elections. the group has millions of dollars in financial backing but will it be enough to have any major effect on the mid terms? we are doing a story on this for you. cnn's jason carroll has it. >> reporter: demonstrators, many of them young spurred on by

gary cohn -- neil: where are we going? >> it is so weird.ogether guy with, i think he plays the piano or something. neil: there is nothing wrong with that. >> i'm 5'9". my hands are three types the size of his. his were very soft. like weird. i -- neil: i'm trying to follow this. >> just telling you, his hands freaked me out. totally freaked me out. neil: but he still hates you. what i'm reading you hands or not, he would like to get them around your neck. >> first of all his hands couldn't fit around my neck. i'm telling you man, my neck is twice the size of his hands. that is the scary part. neil: you're just annoyed he doesn't like you. >> i don't care. neil: you said a lot of horrible things about him. >> i bought him, he was with two other fat cats. i bought him a round of shirley temples. neil: you didn't? >> i swear to god. i did that to him once before, through family, i have a, family member of mine owns a restaurant in brooklyn, of course, a very good one, bumonte's. neil: this is worthy of a fox alert. >> i saw gary cohn at that r

mnuchin is later version of gary cohn. gary cohn and from what i understand, navarro had incredibly tense conversations. neil: i think whose job could be more in jeopardy here? looking at navarro who speaks to the soul of the president's gut, versus mnuchin who is sort of like establishment? >> you know, i would say, it would, should be, it should be mnuchin more at jeopardy. i will say this trump is such a wild card on so many issues, i just don't know. >> this is challenging for the economy to have such wild card action and i think you're asking who's the winner here? the big problem here the loser here is the american people because aside from all of this high school drama of who got invited to -- neil: wait a minute, lenore. the president's watching. [laughter]. >> could we calm everything down and just have a little bit more of a mature conversation? neil: who is the globalist? >> just with all these trade barriers and tariffs mean for the american people? it is not a simple thing. with the tariffs, we put all these t

a lot of opportunities open for gary cohn.er to you guys. >> good stuff, bob very productive interview. gave our market a lot to watch today. >>> oil is bouncing here as the times hases now contradicted an earlier headline on cnn. rick santelli, what are you watching >> watching yield in tens realizing we've had two -- count them, two, close above 3% since mid 2011 are they really going to 4%? we'll talk about that after the break. >>> i'm brian sullivan in for scott wapner big news on the banking. mike mayo is with us, live >>> plus the defense stocks to own if president trump drops out of the iran deal today. >>> and risk and reward, a big story emerging out of the emerging markets "half time" kicks off at noon eastern time back to carl. >> thanks, brian. >>> michelle caruso-cabrera joins us from the news desk to make sense of these contradictory headlines at cnn and now "the new york times," why that caused oil to fall and then bounce. >> let's tell you what jucht came out of the nork ti"the new" story. oil has recovered ab

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>> reporter: while the focus was sn giving ck, gary cohn, president trump' former top economic adviser, spent time hetalking business, global economy and trade with china. >> i don't think anyone wants ad no one wins in a trade war. i think everyone understands that no one wins in a trade war. >> reporter:t's been two months since cohn has left the white house and there's been n shortage of job offers. >> there's a couple i'm spending time with. lawyer i'm with right now looking at the possibility of a company to see if it makes sense. >> can you tell who this is? >> no, i can't. >> reporter: nba legend shaquille o'neal talked business and had pointed advice for young people seeking to build wealth. >> all right, children. young guyse into a lot of money, this is $100. what you want to do isou want to rip that hundred in half. 50. save it. don't ever touch it. put it away. don't even look at it. now you'v got 50left. now the smart people, the real smart people, the billionaires of the world, they'll take half of that 50, put all of that away. this right here, have n. u want to buy hous

you know, gary cohn, dina powell are people that left. anthony scaramucci, people who have been pushed out. i'm sure he's looking for a moment where he can do it on his terms. sarah's comments, i can't divine whether the president is happy with him or not. >> he is pushing back on the report. he's calling this report total bs, and sources say that yesterday the report is just the latest incident that really reflects the friction between the president and kelly. do you think this is the final straw or maybe he's waiting for the right moment? >> i hope so because i don't think john kelly staying in his job is during any of us service from the national security perspective. it's no secret john kelly has been neutered by the president. the chief of staff is there to be a team captain, a team manager between all the different parts of the white house. now we have a situation for example where we have larry kudlow, john bolton and others reporting directly to had president. that means there are a lot of lone wolves going to the president, not q

rex tillerson, gary cohn, they haven't -- this is the underlying issue is because the reported disputes about the united states long standing policy of not separating families once they're apprehe apprehended or detained at the border and the president and his allies want to separate families to disensanise at least. >> does the release of those ads give congress to try to do something about it either before the midterms or before the next presidential election? >> the impetus is there, but with this congress i would be skeptical. it's run by republicans who are predisposed to regulation. it's also run by people who do not have the most understanding. we saw that when he ran circles around all ease lawmakers. but certainly there is pressure now. >> could you ever see us getting to a point where you have to show your id in order to be able to open an account? we were talking about the way you would buy a phone line, open a cable description of anything? >> it's part of the discussion. >> let's skip to the i rap deir deal. he said the same thing about the paris accord when he called out

when gary cohn had his job, he said get navarro out of the white house and sent him off to work withkushner months ago looked at in a vnavarro and cohen and i'm going to pray for you. kudlow does not believe in tariffs. he doesn't want a trade war, and navarro is saying let's do it. >> look at who's involved. it's pretty extraordinary. to read the reports by boom ble berg -- >> not a surprise. it was navarro and ross that wiggled their way into the white house the day hope hicks left and gave the president the -- >> it's interesting to watch the trajectory of whether or not navarro has access to the president's ear. still sharing sympathies with the president. you're right. you look at the spectrum. you had mnuchin on the side of open trade. navarro on the extreme side. he is participating in a more minimal way than he'd like to be. the white house has been adamant about who is leading the talks. it's the treasury secretary. >> which the markets like. >> with wilbur ross and others. certainly not leading the talks as he might want to be. >> what does that mean for the american people

our your economic adviser, gary cohn, was doing a great job until he wasn't.steve bannon until you didn't. swore by jeff sessions until you swore at him. had you remember legal team locked in place until it was president. denied reports that you were ever thinking about firing robert mueller even as you now threat to get involved at the justice department. nobody of this makes you evil. i'm sure you can understand why even your friends say these inconsistencies don't make you look good or do anything to help advance your policies, many of which are very good or the prospects for peace with north korea. that is remarkably good. all of this stuff you keep blurting out remarkably bad timing. it's not that these exaggerations and omissions and misstatements are now and then. more like now and then something else, always something else. like the time you claimed you signed more bills than any president ever, neglecting to mention the other four presidents that signed more. bragged about the national debt being down and it's soared. it's not what you're omitting. it

. >> ambassador, i think back to guys like gary cohn who put their hands up and left. when they gave president trump honest, valuable information, time and again, and he decided to go in a different direction. if mike pompeo presents the president with all the correct information he knows about iran, being currently compliant in the deal and president trump opts to go in a different direction, will it be difficult for him to save face? >> i think it's just the beginning of his time in office, but it's his earliest and biggest test. this is going to be a critical decision. it looks like president trump is halfway out the door. if you look what president macron said in leaving washington last week. it doesn't look like he and merkel were able to convince president trump to stay in the nuclear deal. this is going to be a big problem for the united states. the countries that will be most disaffected from us will be britain, france, and germany. as well as russia and china. they're all in this dwreeagreem. it's hard to see the rationale for leaving. the iranians have applie

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officials have threatened to quit, some have not, like attorney general jeff sessions, some have like gary cohn. there's a lot of almost quits. >> we have a list compiled by our friends at axios of people who some have left but certainly these folks started out by threatening to leave so you see familiar faces and names on that list. mara, do you buy the theory volatility is baked into the cake? that it's an active measure to on the part of this administration? >> i don't know if it's the part of the administration but certainly on the part of the president. i don't know if there's a real strategy behind that but aside from the chaos, one thing that stood out to me is the amount of sniping that goes on behind the scenes. you have so many people in the white house who are willing to sell out thesitting next to them. >> and reporters know that, we talk to them. >> and i think that says a lot about the kinds of people that the president surrounds himself with. and there are a number of people who have considered quitting for various reasons and have stayed because some of them believe and have tol

if gary cohn were in larry kudlow's position or larry kudlow, they'll make the argument we don't think america first is america alone. we think we're part of the global economy. does that argument carry any water anymore with us making these moves on tariffs? >> so no question these moves are not in the spirit of a global interconnected economy which is what we live in. and the idea of a trade war tit for tat has never been tested before in such a global interconnected economy where the supply chains go from asia to mexico to the united states. so the word distort is a key one and accurate in terms of what this does to the economy. as for your other question about what the trump administration is hoping to accomplish, i don't think they've made a secret of it. president trump wants to narrow the trade deficit that the u.s. has with other countries. china, mexico, japan. it doesn't matter if they're close allies and close trading partners of ours. he wants to narrow the deficit which he sees as unfair trade. it's not a measure of unfair trade. we talk to a lot of economists here. they s

some have, like gary cohn. a lot of almost quits in this administration. >> we have an actual list compiled by our friends at axios. some of them have left by now, but certainly all of these folks started out by threatening to leave. so you see familiar faces and names on that list. mara, do you buy the theory that volatility is baked into the cake, that it's an active measure on the part of this administration? >> i don't know if it's on the part of the administration, but i certainly believe it's on the part of the president. i'm not sure if there's a real strategy behind that. but aside from the chaos, one thing that stood out to me is the amount of sniping that goes on behind the scenes. you have so many people in the white house who are willing to essentially sell out the aide sitting next to them. >> and reporters know this because we're the ones talking to them. >> that's right. that's right. so i guess i'm curious about what that says about the kinds of people that the president surrounds himself with.

by the way, echoing the general mcmaster who reportedly called him an idiot and a dope, gary cohn who called him an idiot, secretary of state rex tillerson had adjective in front of idiot. i think there is a reoccurring motif here in the trump administration, people closest to the president don't think he's that bright. >> tillerson called him a moron. >> moron, sorry. >> moron there. scott, i want to shift gears, i want to cover more ground here and put up the national enquirer headline. it is in the supermarket near you, this is the cover -- trump's fixers, secrets and lies, talking about michael cohen, very supportive of the president, jim acosta reporting that people close to the president think this is a very strong sign the president is turning against michael cohen and michael cohen, had asked if a message was being sent by this cover, michael cohen said what do you think? kind of a big yikes around that, isn't there? >> yeah, and there ought to be, frankly. with the mueller investigation, we pretty much know everything. heck, we even had the list of questions now that the pres

. >> and gary cohn left recently. he was involved in this as well.eep in mind, this doesn't hit the biggest of the institutions. they have a variety of regulatory challenges and requirements that will ease up some of the pressures they might have felt to go whole hog like in 2006 through a little bit of 2008. >> give them time. >> we're doing it in good economic times. what happens when the economy turns down again? a lot of them will be in the same situation. >> sam, thank you so much. talking dodd frank. when we come back, amazon's latest product is a game changer. it's a facial recognition technology that can scan a crowd and identify who is in it. how it works and why so many are concerned. growing up, we were german. we danced in a german dance group. i wore lederhosen. when i first got on ancestry i was really surprised that i wasn't finding all of these germans in my tree. i decided to have my dna tested through ancestry dna. the big surprise was we're not german at all. 52% of my dna comes from scotland and ireland. so, i traded in my lederho

it quotes gary cohn, then top economic adviser as calling president trump, dumb as bleep. the white house says that allegation was absolutely ridiculous. and it may be. the measure we're talking about is pattern. the book also quotes treasury secretary steve mnuchin and reince priebus calling their boss an idiot. priebus claims he never said it and mnuchin called the book fake. kristen welker joins us and worked on this story with me and our colleagues. first, let's start with some inconsistencies. we report in the story that when defending john kelly, they said john kelly cares a lot about women. in meetings when people use profanity he often says please don't. he also says they're more emotional than men. let's go back one day. the story prints and within 45 minutes john kelly sends an emotionally charged response and calls our story b.s. last i checked, the s. and b.s. does, in fact, stand for foul language. that doesn't add up. and the other thing that doesn't add up is the white house is saying this didn't happen. the white house is also saying there's a group within

idiot, hr mcmaster, a dope, intelligence of a kindergarten, tillerson with the swearing fing moron, gary cohning. reince priebus, an idiot. just a taste of this. but carol, let's go back to as well what stephanie mentioned about women that he believes are more emotional than men. there are actually while there are fewer women in cabinet role, and we've seen in past administrations, there are several prominent in the president's inner circle, kellyanne conway, sarah huckabee sanders, he relied on hope hicks. where is this kind of lining thinking coming from? >> we talked to some people who had worked with john kelly over the years who said that these are just his views for better or worse that he has some sort of antiquated views about women. and he also people have told us that he is close with or has good relationship with kellyanne conway as well and his right hand person is a barack obawomat the head of department of homeland security. so it is not a one dimensional sort of picture, but that is kind of reflected in the way that the white house spokespeople that i talked to pushed back on t

and gary cohn, you know, one of the many reasons he quit is because he tried to explain the facts toent obama about the u.s. postal service. he didn't want to hear about it because it's a personal vendetta. >> and when the president's lawyers are trying to argue to a judge perhaps that he does not have the time to comply with a subpoena from the special prosecutor or a michael avenatti subpoena in a civil case, what the president has been doing with his time by way of playing golf becomes kind of relevant. and the amount of time this president has devoted to the postmaster general and postage rates sets a record for american presidents. i don't know how far back you would have to go to find a president who actually met with the postmaster general. >> it used to be back in the days of fdr when jim farley was his top political adviser and the postmaster general, there was a lot of patronage that the postmaster general had, and it really was a political office. but those days are long gone. that ended in the early 1970s. so he's kind of living off what maybe his father told him about th

i asked about this topic it's undecided you could have mike corbat, the ceo, become chairman, or gary cohn you could have the ex-ceo of u.s. band korp, richard davis, or somebody else that's fact number one fact number two, citigroup does have worst in class returns versus its u.s. bank peers >> thus the valuation. >> that's point number three, worst in class valuation, the sum of the parts at citigroup, we estimate, are worth two thirds more than the current market cap so are there possibilities, stephanie link just mentioned, there's loads of opportunities right now, valueact moving in appears like they're bffs with citigroup. >> is there any chance that i-shares and vanguard and the only share holders that matter these days are going to go with an activist inthings have not gotten bad enough in my view to see a mass movement toward the activist side from the index funds, and as we know, they have become more and more important >> i think that's a great point that you raised about the activist role with the more passive oriented funds having said that, you have a very real vote coming up

it was ross and navarro who went directly from the president around gary cohn and steve mnuchin to push this idea on the steel and aluminum tariffs. mnuchin this morning is responding to the criticism that there's no details in the statement, there's no specific dollar ats around reducing the deficit. take a listen. >> you saw in the comment, it said very substantial. >> how substantial? >> there's a reason why we didn't put a specific number. i would also say -- >> what happened to the 200 -- >> -- specific number, again, whatever we agree to. we have very specific targets, industry by industry. these now have to be executed. >> well, he said there's a very specific reason why they didn't give the number, and then he didn't give the reason. what's your take? did china come out on top? >> well, i think there are certainly a lot within the administration that feel that china maybe came out on top. you mentioned navarro. i know he and ambassador lighthouser, two of the hard-liners within the administration, are keen to keep reminding the president that talks with china have not worked in

it was really being led by gary cohn and d.j. gribbens. both of them left.t one point there was an intrastructure council. that fell apart after those charlottesville comments. now it is something that larry kudlow, cohen's predecessor, could pick up but he's still new in the job. we're back further than where we were last year as far as being able to get any infrastructure plan through congress. >> okay, but here's why i don't buy it, congressman jolly, everyone says everyone needs a new infrastructure plan that's going to create jobs, going to help this country. here's the problem it costs a huge amount of money. it's not sexy. no one feels like they need it to survive. nobody ever votes for it. >> how do you pay for it. and the fact is, republicans already spent that money. they spent it on big corporate tax cuts. >> correct. >> so now the revenue's not there unless they go to the american people and say we need to raise the gas tax, user fees, raise revenue somehow to do this. the reality is the president had an opportunity to lead with infrastructure an

he appointed new york democrats to inkrcredibly influential plas in his government like gary cohn. >>there through the most important. the idea he needs love from his supporters is not at all. interestingly enough, steve didn't answer your question, which is do they lie, because their boss lies. every single time he opens his mouth. he is up past 3,000 lies since the moment he took office. america deserves better. america deseves better. he is an inept president unfit for office. >> you have a president making us more prosperous and safe and getting more popular. >> he's a lair. >> and it's driving you people crazy. >> he's a lair. >> we hit pause. next, michael cohen. pushing back after his former business partner strikes a plea deal with prosecutors. how much does the so-called taxi king know about cohen. plus, the live pictures on the lava tearing through hawaii. cracks in the earth large enough for homes to fall in. and new pictures coming in showing a heem literally sinking into one of those volcanic cracks. test. you're trying to lower your very hwith a healthy diet... and exerc

>> gary cohn witness about tariffs. >> from their mind-set and their political point of view, they areticizing their own fbi. they're criticizing barack obama's fbi and they are criticizing fbi -- >> what says said from the podium today was we'd like to see this fully looked into this. their fbi has been there for 15 months. >> look, i agree about that, but i think when she's talking about spygate, like about the thing that bob costa was talking about, the legitimate questions are, they very much -- and again, i think this is all ridiculous and clearly politically motivated, not an authentic argument they're making, but it's all calculated. but their argument is the fbi basically is fine. the leadership of the fbi under barack obama was corrupt and so spygate, as they call it, which is obviously a made-up thing, there was no spy, et cetera, et cetera, all of that is not his fbi. it's obama's fbi that did that stuff. >> hang on, let me ask you to answer this and respond as well. the nunes memo was the person that objected to the release of the unredacted nunes memo was his fbi. that was

. >> this is gary cohn's last meeting. he may be a globalist, but i still like him. tariffs as we want. >> i've seen this guy throw a spiral at a tire. i've seen him in madison square garden. thank you. >> so many disposable men, we couldn't fit them all in, donny. >> first of all, to unpack that is incredible. first of all -- >> give it a shot. >> as far as ivanka, she basically was there on air force one when that letter was written. she was there the weekend he decided to fire comey. yes, she's his daughter but a close advisor. she is open for business. and as far as calling his son-in-law disposable, you know, that's a harsh word. >> do you think he knows that jared is in some sort of legal trouble we don't know about yet? >> i think they all do. >> that's what's scary. jared is -- >> ivanka, you'll be fine. >> jared, if you're watching, when the subject of an investigation's lawyer says you're disposable, you better run and get a lawyer. i mean, this is not just some guy talking on fox. this is the president's new legal advisor saying he's disposable. i would ha

the day that gary cohn and secretary mnuchin laid out their one or two page tax bill back about a year ago and the same day martin feldstein, former reagan you don't want to do that as a party to quickly. that's the movie they run over and over. they do tax cuts for the rich. we know roughly over the period of this tax cut 80% of the benefits go to the richest 1%. we know this will encourage more than discourage more outsourcing of jobs and we know it puts congress in a position of we've got to do something about the deficit. it might mean eliminating $400 million we spend to keep the great lakes clean. it means eliminating the appalachian regional commission and going after medicare and security. it's give more to the wealthiest people in this country and stick it to working families again and again and again from all different directions. >> i want to ask you both a question. i'll start with you, professor krugman. i think as glen mentioned, we basically have a dichotomy in the economy which is we've experienced over 10 years a rebound in growth rates and obviously a lot of growth at

. >> yes, gary cohn, on the economy, we spoke with some celebrities and has very interesting time here. 50th annual event they raised $45 million at that time and shaquille o'neal and we talked about all his business deals and fitness centers and car washes and shoe brands and a number of businesses things are interesting when i asked him what kind of advice he would give to kids today about the value of investing >> children, young guys coming in with a lot of money, this is $100, this is what you want to do is rip the $100 in half 50, save it. don't even touch it and invest and put it away. now you got 50 left. the real smart people, they'll take half of the 50 and put all that away. this right here, have fun. you want to buy houses and cars or planes or travel, this right here is what you can have fun with and this is right here is what you will need when you retire so you will save it. this is the house money. this is what you play with >> i have a feeling that'll live on in the internet for quite a long time. shaquille o'neal is a backbone of this charity event since it started 16

know there was a group within the white house, which larry kudlow is not a part, that pushed out gary cohne would have liked the deal very much, i believe former goldman sachs person widely viewed as a globalist there are people in the white house are worried about what the plan is to take our intellectual property and i think it's -- if this is the case, then the soft line, not the hard line won. and we're off to the races for the stock market i wish that we could clarify exactly what we got. because i don't see anything. >> certainly no dollar figure on that and to your point, i mean, again, i'm quoting dan d'amico this time because he's vocal about it did the president blink? china and friends appear to be carrying the day there's that component within the white house that said that the tough work still remains undone. >> and some division in terms of at least the language we've gotten from mnuchin versus lighthizer, for example. some questioning whether everybody is on absolutely the same page. or how big the discrepancies is between the two. >> ambassador lighthizer comes out with com

the day that gary cohn and secretary mnuchin laid out their one or two page tax bill back about a year ago and the same day martin feldstein, former reagan you don't want to do that as a party to quickly. that's the movie they run over and over. they do tax cuts for the rich. we know roughly over the period of this tax cut 80% of the benefits go to the richest 1%. we know this will encourage more than discourage more outsourcing of jobs and we know it puts congress in a position of we've got to do something about the deficit. it might mean eliminating $400 million we spend to keep the great lakes clean. it means eliminating the appalachian regional commission and going after medicare and security. it's give more to the wealthiest people in this country and stick it to working families again and again and again from all different directions. >> i want to ask you both a question. i'll start with you, professor krugman. i think as glen mentioned, we basically have a dichotomy in the economy which is we've experienced over 10 years a rebound in growth rates and obviously a lot of growth at

finally, just to follow up to my interview with gary cohn yesterday, i asked him if he felt there was any unfinished business since he left the white house two months ago. >> one thing we regret in not having been able to do in the original tax bill was the personal side expires. we would like to go back and make the personal side permanent. we believe that the individuals deserve a personal tax reduction and we need that to be permanent. we don't the president to expire. >> i asked him about job offers. he's gotten a lot of them but he's been intrigued by one in particular he described it as not a public traded company but not a charity. i pressed him and he wouldn't tell me. hopefully we'll get information fairly soon. >> good stuff. bob, thank you >>> at&t and novardis confirming they made payment to michael cohen's firm we are outside the white house with the latest. >> reporter: good morning. i asked the white house official whether the president knew about those payments between the number of entities and michael cohen, the president's personal attorney that took place both befo

i agree with post master brennan and the former trump's own former budget director, gary co cohn. he's simply wrong on the numbers and this would be a devastating move for the economy. now, what is interesting to me about trump, he's a gift to the amateur psychoanalysts of the country because everything he does is so nakedly obvious. this is a classic case of jealousy. of a particular type that really brings his neurosis to the surface. these are self-made men. jobs, bezos, bill gates, who are geniuses at finance and have great technical expertise. donald trump, heart of hearts, knows he's a bricks and mortar guy who got his start with daddy's money. so these kind of people really irritate him. the other thing is, he's a classic narcissist in the sense that he values feelings over facts. clearly -- >> don't a lot of people? >> a lot of people are not president, though. >> but you don't have to be a narcissist to be moved by feelings. >> fair enough, in defense of narcissists, i'll yield the point. >> isn't life, howell, made of feelings? >> it is. i'm a big feelings guy myself. ho

>> huge, the administration deserves great credit, the president, steven mnuchin, gary cohn and more rollback of regulatory environment. if you talk to ceo's and banks, what's been bottom, it's that. maria: a number of people who have been on the program with me believe we will see sharp slowdown in end of 2019-2020. recession 2020, no doubt about it. robert says from federal reserve, we will see economic 2.9%, what do you think? >> china has to do two things, has to keep buying the debt whatever the price is, they have reserves so they can keep their currency are depreciating, they have 2 million super wealthy people and a another billion behind it ready to go. take india and move next to it and take all of sub saharan, latin america, we export three times by doing to china. looking at the domestic economy saying we are primarily a service-based economy, those countries have to grow, there's no way out. i think we have a long run in front of us. we will have bumps, we have political dialogues that are going on and north and south korea. maria: president trump has made bold decisions

gary cohn, a dope, intelligence of a kirnd gardner. h.r.alling him an idiot. >> if you do this, can you go to work every day and lead the white house? unless you show true worship of the grand master wizard that is the president, then you're outskies with him. >> i like this analogy from stephanie. you lead with the political equivalent of an std that donald trump worries about constantly. >> donald trump would even say this would be like one of his staffer's personal vietnam. >> wait a minute, maybe that's why he raided his doctor's office. >> thanks for teeing me up that way, elise. thank you. >> we've got a book but we're not going to get to the book quite yet. talk about what you saw with mike pence. here is a guy that was supposed to be sort of the moral grounding for this administration. >> but who thought that? who actually thought that about mike pence looking at his record and the things that he said, and the things that he did when he was the governor of indiana? i watched that thing today and i just thought of an old country-west