there's nothing there, she just says it wasn't on my watch. >> i don't know victoria plame or george papadopolouss the campaign manager for the winning part of the campaign. i don't know these two people. if this happened, it happened earlier on if you're talking about page and papadopolous. >> if this happened, it happened earlier on, is a hell of a lot different than witch hunt, illegal, unwarranted. what was that? >> i mean, kellyanne conway is a smart woman, and i think she understands that it's important to distance herself from what's going on because this is, as she pointed out in that clip, a real investigation in which they are looking at real things that likely occurred around her. and people are pleading guilty to your point just a few minutes ago. so yeah, there are people in this white house who publicly, for the president's benefit, will repeat "witch hunt," "illegal," all of that stuff, but privately they're trying to protect themselves and cordon themselves off from this investigation because it's expanding and touching a lot of people. more importantly, i think trump folks are re