lord kerslake is in our westminster studio.equality think tank, the runnymede trust. in a moment i'm going to ask you all, if you were designing an immigration policy for the uk from scratch what wld you come up with. what culture did theresa may preside over? fear, intimidation for the civil service in particular who were shouted at literally by the special advisers. not by her? no, she got a special adviser to deliver it. there was a fixed determination to reach the conservatives' migration target which we thought as the lib dems was ludicrous because you cannot set a target if there are people coming in who are outside control but within the figures, it is like asking for a target for the number of days of sunshine, it is nonsensical. why did you fail to temper the policy? we did temper in a lot of ways. in the home office, there was one lib dem minister and one lib dem special adviser. so you did not manage to temper it? only two of you? we tempered it in terms of landlord checks, they wanted to make landlords into immigrat

challenge well not truly on delighted i think particularly this week especially following on from the kerslake inquiry it's clear that press practice is still us that's a reference to the magister attacks that we've been commemorating the dead indeed yes so showing that journalist practice is still out of control in journalism is a competitive business and journalists will compete with each other to get a line this situation needs a root and branch inquiry we were promised leveson one and leveson to by lord leveson because he considered the. the job unfinished there are a number of areas that were to be looked at particularly the relations of the media and the police and so forth and it seems strangely convenient to a government which is struggling to survive to want to kill off something which is going to be painful for them what did you do at the sunday times i was a black or a black or is a person who uses social ingress so i would ring people up spin them a story to illegally get information from them so i would work it was a gentle step by step process. generally work from an address at t

with me is now is lord kerslake — former chairman of king‘s college hospital nhs foundation trust.t it cannot do what it is doing now and we must scale back. i think that's absolutely right. it‘s notjust one report today, there are two saying pretty much the same thing. unless you put money, and a lot more money into the nhs over a long period, we can say we will not have the safe, secure, and effective nhs we have all come to believe in. something has to be done. we have reached a turning point. the suggestion is that theresa may is coming up with a new funding settlement sometime in the summer. probably around the time of the 70th anniversary of the founding of the nhs. and the feeling seems to be it‘ll be something around 3%. that is less than this report is recommending just to stand still for the nhs. yes, it is, and i think you have to think about at least 3.5 to a%. if you read the iss report, we are talking about a mirror to 5% if you want to catch up on the austerity loss. —— ifs report. we must be honest about how we will find this. because if we are going to do this long

the wards in the city following the kersla ke boundaries and the wards in the city following the kerslakey seat is up for grabs and the wards have changed. single wards or dual wards rather than three councils makes it difficult to predict. at the general election, 63% of the population voted labour and it is seen as a population voted labour and it is seen as a labour heartland. but at the mayoral election, the conservative candidate prevailed and there is a lot of chat that this could be the best chance the opposition parties and the conservative opposition has to make significant gains. a lot depends on how much labour has been able to mobilise its core voters out and that depends on turnout as well. we could be looking at interesting results, always birmingham, first results, always birmingham, first results possibly at midday and we should know at five p:m., 6pm the final results. thank you very much. we probably are not expecting so many results over the next couple of hours, but from lunchtime, they should start to comment after a brief hiatus from the overnight counts. with me her