matteo salvini says the prime minister will be neither have on -- neither him nor luigi di maio. our roman correspondent joins us now to tell us more. josephine, tell us more about who the prime ministerer might . what names are being bandied about? josephine: first of al w we are seeing a total reshaping of the political landscape in italy. neither matteteo salvini or luii di maio has confirmed who it will be. there is speculation it will be a law professor with very little political experience, very little experertise in pubublic administration. he taught t at her -- i i can be university and the sorbonne e in paris. more of an academic than a political background. that m might be a concern to president sergrgio mattarella, o wanted to see a political appointee in this position of prime minister. it will be interesting to see if the political parties and political leaders get the approvoval of the president when each of them meet with him individually later this afternoon. genie: josephine, let's talk a little more about what kind of program, what kind of politics these sides a

this graffito may depict a close relationship between luigi demaio and matteo salvini but they certainly weren't allies during the election campaign now the populist leaders of the league and the five star movement have asked italy's president to approve their new alliance. today we can say we are faced with a historic moment i also say this to our international partners let us begin then you will criticize but at least let us begin first this is perhaps an unexpected government but it has been elected. nobody has anything to fear. we want a government that puts national interests first and foremost as we proposed to during our election campaign. we will respect everybody who put italy in the center . fuel to the league and the five star movement spend two weeks hammering out a program it calls for the speedy deportation of half a million migrants are costly campaign promises such as tax cuts early retirement and basic income are to be paid for with new debt. this contract is the heart of the government of change i see many people concerned about the international and european context th

with a hung parliament the leaders of the anti salamon five-star party leadership the mio and matteo salvini of the far right league party are meeting with the president to put forward their joint candidate for permian south and he has said both leaders have agreed to nominate a third party candidate. and let's bring in david his band record he's covering this story for us from hidebound italy has been politically paralyzed since elections in early march will the country get a new prime minister today. but the italian drama is now reaching its final act tonight the president will need to do you the odd couple of the populist from the left and the populist from the right and yes there's a good chance that there will be a prime minister but the final approval of it only come tomorrow and tuesday even president will. assign the new guy to form a government but this government is stable or not we don't know yet it's very likely that the two parties will get into fights about the program because this program comes from from two very extreme poles and it's just. britain together in two weeks' time

leaders but just on thursday night as it emerged that this deal had had gone through matteo salvini head of the league said that he was fed up of seeing italian governments go to brussels putting out the begging cap that came just a few hours after. the head of the european commission said that what it's really needed was less corruption and more hard work so there seems to already be a war of words between the incoming government here and top officials in brussels that might worry not just other heads of government but again the financial markets if they think that there's going to be a big clash coming up there's a big summit in the u. summit in june where we're likely to see a lot of friction but in the next few days what we know is that the new government is expected to be sworn in to pass a vote of confidence here in parliament the first step on trying to get some stability back in italy. oh political crisis in spain as well the prime minister mariano rajoy is expected to be toppled as leader in a no confidence motion set for friday while his party is struggle to restore trust after

here's matteo salvini's response to that.ns its gates to the modern barbarians‘. the barbarians are arriving in in rome. better to be a barbarian than a slave. than a slave that sells italy's dignity, future, businesses and even its borders." the ft‘s view might have something to do with this. earlier, a leaked document published by huffpost italia dated 14th may proposes a debt write off of $295 billion. italy has the second highest public debt in the eurozone. i spoke to the commentator paola diana and asked how critical a moment is italy at right now. it is very critical in many italians arejust it is very critical in many italians are just worried and they are thinking that we are in the hands of very in competent and experienced, young guys. they do not have a clue about what it is making a government and really doing something realfor the country. they are just talk and a state nonsense, nonsense things. but billions of italians voted for these men. it is a shame and i hope many italians understand that these people are

it's possible it could be matteo's all beanie -- matteo salvini. that could be uncomfortable.hona: right, dave, we have a program, a coalition. -- whatpens in sup on happens depends on who the prime minister inns of being? e: the prime minister will accept this government or not except this government, and in we have italian government in next in time for the european council in the building behind me. that comes in june. it is unclear who will be the prime minister coming here to ,epresent italy for that summit but it could see the first big conflict between this new italian government and the eu on the issue of russia. the coalition government explicitly says that russia is "not a military threat." of courses going against conventional wisdom here in brussels and next month they have to make the decision on whether to rollover the sanctions on russia for its annexation of crimea. the new government may block the rollover of those sanctions. there could be fireworks with that new italian government next week. shona: a few points of discord there. thank you for joining us, dav

the head of the league, matteo salvini, said he would rather push for fresh elections. but here is the kicker. he does not want to see those fresh elections in jujuly, the cuts says most italians are on vacation and the holiday is sacrosanct. whether or not he is open to reforming a coalition with the five star movement still remains unclear, and it is quite possible that they would reopen talks, perhaps with a broader brothers including the of italy, another far right party that is part of the right-wing alliance. genie: it is extorted new he how this story has been developing over the past few weeks. what are your thoughts? you think we might still see early elections in italy, despite what people are saying about vacations and such? to be an: there seems indication now that they want to move back from the immediate elections, spite what mr. salvini is saying. anis possible we will have interim government, perhaps led by mr. cottarelli or someone else, in the short-term, just to get through the summer, until fresh elections can be held in september or october. having

and here is matteo salvini, leader of the five star's potential coalition partner, the league.icker of their problems instead of taking care of our government? know, everybody needs to have his say. mind your own business. this is my appeal from pisa, from the market of pisa, on behalf of myself on your behalf. give us a date for the vote in the italian people will do justice on what has happened in these last weeks. thank you, long live the league, along with pisa. so what might happen now is anyone's guess, but the uncertain to—ing and fro—ing of the main players is keeping everyone interested. this bloomberg article compares the two leaders' behaviour to the political wranglings described by italian thinker niccolo machiavelli, and therefore part of the same political culture that they've often criticised. for more, i spoke to the bbc‘s nick marsh. at the moment, and it delete, we have a situation where the prime minister designate, then appointed by the president to form a new government, not elected but appointed by the president, says he cannot form a new government. the

and we sawaw an immediate reactn on twitter from matteo salvini, the head of the league, saying back off and keep your nose out of italy's business, with the huge photo. very strongeing reactions from five star and the league. they are d dermined toto put a govevernment together. the same with the controversiail income taxes,ut introduce a basic income for the poor andnd unemployed. they are determined to get the candidate pushed through as prime minister. on that point, we are not likely to see any kind of announcement, i don't think, from the president this afternoon. he may hold off until tomorrow. there is no doubt he is keeping and i on those financial markets , -- keeping an eye on this financial markets and reports about the status of giuseppe conte. josephine mckenna reporting live from rome. the south korean president is meeting with donald trump today in talks that could decide whether or not trump's summit with north korea will go ahead. south korean leader moon jae-in is in washington on a mission to save a rare meeting between the u.s. and the north. trump had agreed to

the analogy is broadly what is about to happen in italy, the right led by matteo salvini is on the vergeive star movement led by luigi di maio. five star has only ever contested tee elections but it secured 33% of the vote this time, more than any other party. the coalition of the right led by la liga and including four—time pro minister berlusconi got 37% but they fall short of the required 40% needed for a majority. for weeks the five star leader swore there would be no alliance with what he called the parties that destroyed our country. but now, desperate to try and prove their hand at the bilic nationally, this option is starting to look like the least worst for them. —— at governing nationally. last week berlusconi himself gave his blessing to the alliance. a ban on him running for office for five years has been lifted and he sees himself not as a player but as a kingmaker. the incoming coalition is of course chalk and cheese but they share a euroscepticism and a sympathetic stance toward russia on sanctions and, as in every horseshoe, the distance between extreme left and right get

matteo salvini the leader of the far right league party routinely tweets that they are gypsy thieves and he will bulldoze the camps of course the roma people have seen all the messages and they're outraged that this assault on them is pure propaganda it's racism the word gypsy shouldn't be used at all he talks about bulldoze as if he will be the one to come and clean up the camps he should be a politician he should do something else the threats are already attracting the attention of human rights advocates even before the new government is formed. these politicians don't realize what the situation is you can't expel italians the ones from the former yugoslavia are either here legally or they are stateless so no country would take them back. in the election here nearly one in five italians voted for the league party and so plainly it isn't difficult to convince angry disillusioned people that europe cares more about outsiders than ethnic italians of course whether or not they're serious about bulldozing these places and trying to deport european citizens there's a different question a

far right leak this defeat he made to pick the close relationship between luigi de morrow and matteo salvini but they certainly weren't allies during the election campaign now the populous leaders of the far right the and the five star movement have asked president sergio martha rela to approve their new alliance. today we can say we are faced with a historic moment i also say this to our international partners let us begin then you will criticize but at least let us begin first this is perhaps an unexpected government but it has been elected. misrule know that they mean nobody has anything to fear. we want a government that puts national interests first and foremost as we proposed to italians during our election campaign. we will respect everybody who put italy in the center italians. yanni. the league from the north and the five star movement from the south spent two weeks hammering out a programme it calls for the deportation of half a million asylum seekers costly campaign promises such as tax cuts early retirement and a basic income are to be paid for with more debt. this contract is th

but the populists, led here by the league's matteo salvini, have the numbers to reject the president'sons. mr salvini, who's been going up in the polls, wants the freedom to govern his way. translation: if the president of the republic tells us, "do as you want, but don't touch the european rules," we have a problem with democracy, because i think in italy, the people are sovereign and don't depend entirely on european markets and bureaucracies. wherever you look here, there are signs of italy's six decade—long partnership with europe. but this country has begun to shift. this is the country that helped to found the european union. why are the populist parties turning against it? because people think that germany rules all europe and germany rules italy. and they want to control italy and the agreements on european union is an advantage for germany and a disadvantage for italy. italy is used to changing prime ministers, but this is much more serious than that. an election later this year may become an unofficial referendum on italy's membership of the euro and on its place in the europ

but the populists, led here by the league's matteo salvini, have the numbers to reject the president'stions. mr salvini, who's been going up in the polls, wants the freedom to govern his way. translation: if the president of the republic tells us, do as you want but don't touch the european rules, we have a problem with democracy because i think in italy, the people are sovereign and don't depend entirely on european markets and bureaucracies. wherever you look here, there are signs of italy's long partnership with europe. but this country has begun to shift. this is the country that helped found the european union. why are the populist parties turning against it? because people think that germany rules all europe and germany rules italy and they want to control italy and the agreements on the european union are an advantage for germany and a disadvantage for italy. tonight, this country realises that it now faces a sudden choice, an early election later this year may become an unofficial referendum on italy's membership of the eu and this country's relationship with the union it helpe

the league party's leader matteo salvini is equally critical of the president's intervention.thing, we will have a technical government. i ask, to nothing, we will have a technical government. iask, i to nothing, we will have a technical government. i ask, i we're democracy? in italy, do the italians decide will do the germans or french? and so i lost so much time, they could have told us before. as a stopgap italy's president may now appointed non—populist prime minister, not the only lasting solution may be an early general election. and you can keep up to date with the latest efforts to establish a coalition government in italy on the bbc website. there, you'll also find background analysis on what the current political uncertainty means for the italian economy. just go to bbc.com/news. let's take a look at some of the other stories making the news this hour. two contenders for the colombian presidency will be going through to the second round. the conservative, ivan duque, polled some 39% of the votes. gustavo petro — a former left—wing rebel — is running neck and neck wit

this trophy he made to put the close relationship between luigi de mario and matteo salvini but they certainly weren't allies during the election campaign now the populous leaders of the far right the and the five star movement have asked president sergio martha rela to approve their new alliance. today we can say we are faced with a historic moment i also say this to our international partners let us begin then you will criticize but at least let us begin first this is perhaps an unexpected government but it has been elected. me nobody has anything to fear. we want a government that puts national interests first and foremost as we proposed to italians during our election campaign. we will respect everybody who put italy in the center italians. the league from the north and the five star movement from the south spent two weeks hammering out a programme it calls for the deportation of half a million asylum seekers costly campaign promises such as tax cuts early retirement and a basic income are to be paid for with more debt. this contract is the heart of the government of change i see

the league party's leader, matteo salvini, is equally critical of the president's intervention.we worked for nothing, we will have a technical government. i ask, are we a democracy? in italy, do the italians decide or do the germans or french? i am sorry i lost so much time, they could have told us before. as a stopgap move, italy's president may now appoint a non—populist prime minister, but the only lasting solution may be an early general election. james reynolds, bbc news, rome. and you can keep up to date with the latest efforts to establish a coalition government in italy, on the bbc website. you'll also find background analysis on what the current political uncertainty means for the italian economy. just go to bbc.com/news let's take a look at some of the other stories making the news: chinese officials have accused the us of seriously infringing china's sovereignty by sailing two warships close to disputed coral reefs and islands in the south china sea. the paracel islands are controlled and occupied by china, but taiwan and vietnam also claim sovereignty over them. the

that's because the two leaders of the populist parties five star movement‘s luigi di maio and matteo salvinif their governing, in terms of their stance on migration and the economy, they have cancelled each other out as part of their planned to be a coalition that it would have to be someone else. there isa would have to be someone else. there is a 54—year—old little—known law professor called giuseppe conte, who isa professor called giuseppe conte, who is a friend of luigi di maio. reports suggest he is in line to become the next prime minister which will have to wait. in the palace behind me, the presidential palace, there is meeting between the two leaders and president around 6pm this evening, 5pm uk time. a word on how this coalition will operate. the rhetoric we were hearing before was the plans to take italy out of the euro but it has been watered down. there is enough to concern eu leaders, including a call to drop sanctions against russia, saying they are a partner and not an enemy, and also to speed up plans to deport 500,000 illegal migrants from italy, to drop taxes, increase gov

but the populists, led here by the league's matteo salvini, have the numbers to reject the president'srly elections. mr salvini, who's been going up in the polls, wants the freedom to govern his way. translation: if the president of the republic tells us, do as you want but don't touch the european rules, we have a problem with democracy because i think in italy, the people are sovereign and don't depend entirely on european markets and bureaucracies. wherever you look here, there are signs of italy's long partnership with europe. but this country has begun to shift. this is the country that helped found the european union. why are the populist parties turning against it? because people think that germany rules all europe and germany rules italy and they want to control italy and the agreements on the european union are an advantage for germany and a disadvantage for italy. tonight, this country realises that it now faces a sudden choice, an early election later this year may become an unofficial referendum on italy's membership of the eu and this country's relationship with the union

appointee in the mix but he could compromise basically then we heard from the leader of lagos matteo salvini who didn't react directly to that but stuck to his guns saying and old all day long he's been saying that the only government invisible is the one that they nominated he's also struck back at reaction abroad saying that it's really cannot longer continue to be the country that says yes to europe there was market uncertainty of course following sunday's events which the president said was was trying to calm the international financial markets. things have got a bit calmer in the last twenty four hours but the leader of the five star movement acknowledged there was a lot of worry. on the markets but he says it's not just because we're so-called populists it's because of the time scale of the uncertainty and things need to go things need to start proceeding in a smooth manner the head of the league says he wants elections as soon as possible it seems that he's a. alloys in five saw a more amenable to perhaps seeing the summer out with a compromise an interim government and then perhaps e

the league party's leader, matteo salvini, is equally critical of the president's intervention.ing, we will have a technical government. i ask, are we a democracy? in italy, do the italians decide or do the germans or french? i am sorry i lost so much time, they could have told us before. as a stopgap move, italy's president may now appoint a non—populist prime minister, but the only lasting solution may be an early general election. james reynolds, bbc news, rome. what does all this mean for the euro and residential markets well? let's have a word now with lawrence gosling. good to see you. i want to ask you first walk about mr savona who is not getting hisjob. —— because the president post it. you can understand the coalition saying hang ona can understand the coalition saying hang on a minute, where is the democracy here? absolutely, it is the president who has sought of veto the president who has sought of veto the coalition. it does sound antidemocratic oddities within the italian constitution, so chances are we will end up having another election at some point. is looking

up until the last minute matteo salvini leader of the right wing likud party had insisted his pick for economy minister must not be vetoed speaking live on social media late on sunday he called the president's rejection anti-democratic in. that he said no he said there will not be a government we work for nothing we will have a technocrat government i ask of the a democracy in italy do the italian decide or do the germans offense decide it's absolutely incredible from my point of view. salvini wants fresh elections so too does he know as you do my own leader of the five star movement which got the most votes in march when the merchant legals it there was over fifty percent support for two political parties parties that want to change thing as one to represent the talents and their interests but in the end a way to block it is always seems to be found the president is expected to decide his next step on monday he could well see another non-politician given the job of heading an interim government for italians political instability is a fact of life while many hoped was about to change t

sort of compromise perhaps suggesting a different economy minister but the leader of the league matteo salvini while he didn't react directly has been sticking to his guns saying that that must be the government otherwise there should be elections as soon as possible he stands to gain the lead have surged up to around twenty five percent in the latest opinion polls five star steady on around thirty percent so it's possible if there were fresh elections that they could be the biggest two groups but whether they'll be prepared to work together again is not certain right now we don't know if it's really will go back to the polls or who will lead its next government well still ahead here on al-jazeera we speak to the reading of women who are due to give birth in refugee camps after being raped in myanmar. and a generation at risk the impact of years of civil war on south sudan's most vulnerable do stay with us here a lot as. i told. me the weather sponsored by katter i always had of the temperature doesn't very very much in hong kong through the year seven right degrees maybe but recently temperat

yes because the party leaders themselves, luigi dimaio from five star and matteo salvini from the leaguend often you find italian politicians simply recycle themselves through several administrations, under several parties and know you have to have some give—and—take. the populists say their mandate is different and they want to do things differently but essentially, the president might have set up their entire election campaign if early elections are to be held because they will now be able to go to the people and say, "look, we were right, we warned there was an italian and eu establishment trying to stop us from taking power and stop the will of the people and now we see that the president vetoed our government". by accident, possibly, italy's president has handled them an election campaign. do you think that is where we are headed now, more elections? it looks like it. what is the alternative? the stopgap prime minister appointed by the president may not get approved by the populists. most newspapers said this morning we will have do have early elections. bear in mind, italy does not

sort of compromise perhaps suggesting a different economy minister but the leader of the league matteo salvini while he didn't react directly has been sticking to his guns saying that that must be the government otherwise there should be elections as soon as possible he stands to gain the league have surged up to around twenty five percent in the latest opinion polls five star steady on around thirty percent so it's possible if there were fresh elections they could be the biggest two groups but whether they'll be prepared to work together again is not certain right now we don't know if it's really will go back to the polls or who will lead its next government more than one point two billion children affected by conflict widespread poverty or gender discrimination according to a new report by save the children has one half of all the children in the world south sudan has suffered a civil war for nearly five years and is one of the worst affected countries in the morgan reports from juba. fifteen year old mary kay dent has only one dream to go to school and get a degree so when her family told h

the league party's leader, matteo salvini, is equally critical of the president's intervention.e a technical government. i ask, are we a democracy? in italy, do the italians decide, or do the germans or french? i'm sorry i lost so much time. they could have told us before. as a stopgap move, italy's president may now appoint a non—populist prime minister. but the only lasting solution may be an early general election. james reynolds, bbc news, rome. scotland's first minister nicola sturgeon is raising her concerns over brexit during a meeting with the eu's chief negotiator michel barnier in brussels this morning. ms sturgeon, who wants to remain in the customs union and single market, has called on the uk government to "engage properly" with devolved administrations after britain leaves the eu. the headlines on bbc news: flash flooding hits parts of the midlands and wales, after some areas experience more than a month's rainfall injustan hour. talks resume between us and north korean officials on a possible leaders' summit, after donald trump says he sees "great potential" in th

sort of compromise perhaps suggesting a different economy minister but the leader of the league matteo salvini while he didn't react directly has been sticking to his guns saying that that must be the government otherwise there should be elections as soon as possible he stands to gain the league have surged up to around twenty five percent in the latest opinion polls five star steady on around thirty percent so it's possible if there were fresh elections that they could be the biggest two groups but whether they'll be prepared to work together again is not certain right now we don't know if it's really will go back to the polls or who will lead its next government china says it's ready to fight back if the u.s. is looking for a trade war that's after washington said it will impose a twenty five percent tariff on fifty billion dollars worth of chinese imports it will also restrict investment by chinese companies in the u.s. and limit exports of high tech goods to china a trade delegation from the white house has arrived in beijing for negotiations earlier this month the two countries agreed to

there is a split the five star movement said to be more in favor of compromising on a candidate matteo salvini the head of the league still saying that they will not compromise on their personnel they will not be dictated to but behind the scenes obviously there are still talks going on and that's why the prime minister designate right now is not in a position to say yes it will be me who will present a cabinet to parliament in the near future and beyond that of course all of the both of those parties calling for fresh elections in the near future and what about the impact this place called uncertainty on financial markets. well again it seems to have swung on tuesday we saw a big negative impact on the uncertainty in terms of italian bank shares being sold in terms of italian government bonds. be attracting much greater yields right now though markets are bouncing back in the european central bank says it sees no reason to intervene this is a political crisis it says not an economic one and although the european european commission suggested that the market reaction might actually deliver a l

sort of compromise perhaps suggesting a different economy minister but the leader of the league matteo salvini while he didn't react directly has been sticking to his guns saying that that must be the government otherwise there should be elections as soon as possible he stands to gain the lead have surged up to around twenty five percent in the latest opinion polls five star steady on around thirty percent so it's possible if there were fresh elections that they could be the biggest two groups but whether they'll be prepared to work together again is not certain right now we don't know if it's really will go back to the polls or who will lead its next government. and the news ahead brazil's a striking truck drivers get back on the job now it's boyle workers there say they have fed up that bus. the money gallacher on the west coast of florida worth babcock ranch something that's turning into one of the biggest solar powered cities in the world. allan there is so much more strain the and the east in the u.s. and in eastern canada partly from the circulation alberto the first named storm of the s

matteo salvini the leader of the far right league party routinely tweets that they are gypsy thieves and he will bulldoze the camps of course the roma people have seen all the messages and they are outraged because it is assault on them it is pure propaganda it's racism the word gypsy shouldn't be used at all he talks about bulldoze as if he will be the one to come and clean up the camps he should be a politician he should do something else the threats are already attracting the attention of human rights advocates even before the new government is formed. these politicians don't realize what the situation is you can't expel italians the ones from the former yugoslavia are either here legally or they are stateless so no country would take them back. in the election here nearly one in five italians voted for the league party and so plainly it isn't difficult to convince angry disillusioned people that europe cares more about outsiders than ethnic italians of course whether or not they're serious about bulldozing these places and trying to deport european citizens there's a different qu

this leaves the hard—right league led by 48—year—old matteo salvini to form a government with the anti—establishmentother step in europe's populist surge. the bbc‘s sara monetta was at the five star headquarters on election night for us. i asked her whether she was surprised it took so long to get here. i think everyone was surprised it took so long because it was the only possible result, an alliance between the parties. even when they chose a spokesperson of the two houses of parliament, it happened quickly, taking a couple of days when it usually takes weeks in italy, which meantan usually takes weeks in italy, which meant an alliance was about to be formed. then what happened, after the nomination of the two speakers of the house, the five star movement came under criticism because they elected someone alloy list of silvio berlusconi and then they tried to distance themselves and say we want an alliance with you guys but we do not want berlusconi in the middle. what do you make of this, five star movement and league. a first for italy. it definitely is. these are two small parties, used to be sm

and here's the man who was supposed to be italy's new minister of the interior, matteo salvini.ed and disappointed for another 12 hours. since i've been studying dossiers at the ministry of the interior for the last 15 days. once the anger and the disappointment have passed, we will come back, determined, and we will take more votes than the last time. we will form a government with the same personalities, who have just suffered a ridiculous veto in the last hours, provided that they are willing to. now, let me go back to my office. the bbc‘s sara monetta told me more. he will now form a cabinet. the president is likely to approve the cabinet and then he will have to go to parliament to get the confidence vote. it's likely he is not going to get it because, at the moment, only the democratic party has declared support to him. this means they don't have enough votes, therefore there will be elections after the summer, after august. so, probably in september, but this creates a bit of problem, because the whole month of august, usually the parliament is shut down for holidays. so,

he was the choice of luigi di maio, leader of the anti establishment five star movement and matteo salvinies won most seats in the election over two months ago. a little earlier i spoke with bbc journalist sara monetta about the new prime minister. he hasn't been in the public eye at all. as you have said, he is a lawyer and a professor, and the first time we heard about him was when he was presented before the election. these people are going to be part of my cabinet before the election, and he was supposed to be the justice minister. election, and he was supposed to be thejustice minister. and in the election happened, the agreement between the first movement and the league, and none of the leaders agreed on who was supposed to be prime minister. so they picked, because as the largest party, and he isa because as the largest party, and he is a member who is, they think that he isa is a member who is, they think that he is a political man but is not really. so many cms a puppet in the hands, and this is why for instance, he has kept him for so long. their meeting has lasted almost two hou

headed by these two men luigi di maio, leader of the anti establishment five star movement and matteo salvinider. gavin lee picks up the story. we arejust we are just witnessing the changing of the guard at the presidential palace in rome. it is significant today because they could be a changing of the guard with the italian government. both the coalition parties‘s leaders have been meeting inside. we have the league party, populist anti—immigrant party, far right. we have also got the 5—star movement, antiestablishment, neither could get enoughin antiestablishment, neither could get enough in the election, but they could combine together. they had talked previously of getting italy out of the eurozone, stopping the euro, they also spoke about cancelling the debt. they have put a joint contract together to say what they want to do is ask the eu to stop sanctions against russia. they say they should be treated as a partner, not an enemy. they also wa nt to partner, not an enemy. they also want to speed up the deportation of 500,000 migrants who are in italy. the questions about how they do tha

and the recent success of matteo salvini, the lega in italy.f liberal democracies in europe? well, why do you say liberal democracies? the last time i looked, they were all voted into office. they're populist. that's another thing. the bbc and the financial times the economist are all in meltdown. 0k? guess what? the globalisation project that you promoted was wrong. 0k? it didn't work. it's time to embrace that. and when people in hungary and the czech republic or in italy want to take their country back and want to get their sovereignty back and want to get their citizens back, it's not the end of the world. you guys all say, "it's the end of the liberal democracies, the rise of fascism". look at what happened in italy, and italy had a right—wing populist party and the left—wing populist party. you had donald trump and bernie sanders. and when you have orban... and it came together, kind of what i said. i kind of threw it out there. i said, if you could put your basic economic differences aside and join up, you would actually have something t

sort of compromise perhaps suggesting a different economy minister but the leader of the league matteo salvini while he didn't react directly has been sticking to his guns saying that that must be the government otherwise there should be elections as soon as possible he stands to gain the lead have surged up to around twenty five percent in the latest opinion polls five star steady on around thirty percent so it's possible if there were fresh elections that they could be the biggest two groups but whether they'll be prepared to work together again is not certain right now we don't know if it's really will go back to the polls or who will lead its next government. eisel fighters have attacked the afghan interior ministry headquarters in the capital kabul police say a car bomb was detonated at the entrance and then several attackers managed to get inside the compound is the latest in a series of attacks tied to deteriorating security situation jennifer glass says more from. the explosions and gunfire went on for about two hours as fighters attacked the interior ministry a suicide attacker detona

this was matteo salvini a short while ago.ters that are worried. they have nothing to worry about. our government wants to bring back economic growth and bring back businesses who invest here and to make jobs more stable. you have the germans today saying that they are, the populists in italy are playing with fire over the country's finances. we have had decades of fragile italian coalition governments, to italians think this mix of populist left and right can actually govern together?” mix of populist left and right can actually govern together? i think the point is they're saying we have tried most other things, we have tried most other things, we have tried a leftist party and they have tried a leftist party and they have tried silvio berlusconi for many years, now you have unemployment at the heightest level for many years, a third of the population of young adults are unemployed and they're sick of debt and i saddled with 2.3 billion euros of debt. the parties say we will lower you, taxes from 40 to 20% and give everyone

because if they don't then at least one of the partners of the leave the far right party under matteo salvini are still pushing for elections as soon as possible the belief here is that the five star movement perhaps a bit more conciliatory willing to back an interim administrator. through the summer to get through a budget before fresh elections expected in the autumn very fluid as i say right now no no official statements on the record so far and so people have in mind that they very well might be called to elections in the next few months but if it does happen in the summer if that's triggered it won't be a popular move because many people will be away on holiday. we know that the president has taken steps to try and calm the turmoil in global markets and how much instability is this cause. that's right i mean his whole point from sunday evening was i had to do this to avoid instability to avoid italian savings being hit now of course there was a impact on tuesday we saw stock exchanges around the world down for example the dow jones in new york down around one and a half percent london do

yvonne: what do you think will be the next move for matteo salvini, the leader? with the five-star movement as an alliance in the or willction campaign, he need the help of silvio berlusconi to have more of a center-right lean toward his philosophy and stance? jeff: that is a big question. rella, by saying he would not allow italy to leave the eurozone through the backdoor has really made the euro and italy's future in the e.u. a central point in the upcoming election campaign. lvini and the five-star movement will want to play the victim. they will say the people gave them a mandate and the president rejected it. by the same token they will be at a battle, each one wanting to come out on top and have control over the formation of the next government. ni mayk that means salvi want to rely on berlusconi. he has been eating berlusconi's lunch. he can feel fairly confident he has that situation in hand and try to hold out the lead he has overpublic opinion polls the five-star movement, but it will be a battle between two populists again. david: let's look at the opp

the league's leader, matteo , saysi -- matteo salvini he will not be an obstacle to forming a new governmentu's economic -- nyu i economic professor , and dominic konstam of deutsche bank. would it be better to go to fresh elections? >> there a variety of views on that. given the outcome of the previous election, in which the five-star movement and the ,eague got over 50% of the vote i think you have to give them a chance to form a government and try to govern. i think that is a process you are seeing underway. there is considerable uncertainty about what kinds of policies with respect to the domestic economy and the european union. that uncertainty is not going to get resolved. i don't think going to another election right now is the best answer. francine: professor, we are also hearing -- and again, i would put a word of caution because we are trying to figure out from our own sources exactly what the proposal is -- but we heard that there is a joint program which could also ask the ecb for some debt relief. this is not something that has actually been agreed to in the program, but it is c

the man right now is matteo sell vini. -- salvini.ck to the capital this afternoon and he has two choices to make. either he will go along with suggesting is is to drop the finance minister and move him to the foreign ministry , but we could even see today carla caught a rally -- cottarelli being sworn in today. for some insight on what is the feeling on the ground, everybody has been talking about this post. madhouse italy. to be honest, this is a reflection of how the politics you wereng while sleeping, we have been living every headline over and over again. the changes of what is happening , so potentially today we could see a populist government or technocratic government come to play, but that would only be for the time being until elections in the fall. francine: the socialists, how close are they to lighting up enough votes to topple the president? there is currently the session in parliament which is quite heated. ben: they are very, very close. the old adage that spanish politics is never bet against mariano rajoy, but we are