mchugh is quite experienced. >> okay. >> so you have a motion? >> yes. [inaudible] >> sure. move to grant the appeal and condition the permit on the submission of drawings showing the drainage and the grade level, is that -- >> the grade at the fence line. >> grade at the fence line. >> okay. and the drains would be along the base of the fence, as well, so we want to condition -- [inaudible] >> i'm sorry, on the wall. okay. so we have a motion by commissioner lazarus to grant the appeal and issue the permit on the condition that new drawings be submitted that would show the drawing of the drains on the plan for the record as well as the grade at the location. okay. on that motion -- [roll call] >> okay. that motion passes, so thank you. okay. moving onto item number 11. [agenda item read] >> and we will hear from the appellant first. you have seven minutes. if you can identify yourself for the record, please. >> good evening, everybody. i'm marlene kramer, and it's with great pleasure that i finally have a chance to speak my piece regarding the property at 2242 35th avenue.