mr. holman. we had a great relationship. we still do. but now ice is the only law enforcement agency that cannot use our databases to find the bad guys. they cannot come in and talk to people in our jail, unless they reach a certain threshold. they can't do all kinds of things that other law enforcement agencies can do. and it's really put us in a very bad position. it's a disgrace. >> and we're checking on that and we're working hard. they can all come together. because people want it to come together. it's so ridiculous. the concept that we're even talking about is ridiculous. we'll take care of it, margaret. >> thank you. i know about if they don't meet a certain threshold, i cannot do it enough. >> we have people trying to come into the country. we're stopping a lot of them. but we're taking people out of the country. you wouldn't believe how bad these people are. these aren't people. they're animals. and we're taking them out of the country at a level and rate that's never happened before. and because ever tof the weak l they come i

mr. thomas holman became the senior official performing the duties of director in 2017. he's a 33 year veteran in law enforcement and has 30 years of experience. he has served as a police officer in new york, as well as a special agent for investigations at i.c.e. mr. sisna was sworn in in 2018. he served as the director within the dhs office of policy. he was selected for a detail to the u.s. senate judicial committee. prior to that he served as the acting director for immigration and border security policy in the dhs office of policy. the chair now recognizes deputy commissioner vittelo for five minutes to testify. >> thank you. >> thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today to discuss the efforts of u.s. customs and border protection to achieve our objectives. my fellow witnesses have decades of practical experience and i'm grateful to work with such dedicated officials. physical barrier and complimentary areas have long been part of our risk based approach to protecting the border. the act of 2018 supports the mission, including $1.4 billion for the larg

mr. holman is a 33 year director of law enforcement and has nearly 30 years of immigration enforcement experience. he has served as a police officer in new york, a patrol agent -- border patrol agency -- naturalization service as well as an advisory special agent and deputy assistant director for investigations. >> mr. francis -- was sworn in as director of the u.s. cis on october 28, 2017. recently, he served as a director of immigration policy within the dhs office of policy. he was selected for a detailed to the u.s. senate judiciary committee. were, he worked on immigration related in this -- legislation. prior to that, -- immigration and border security policy. >> the chair recognizes deputy commissioner vitello for five minutes. >> thank you. chairwoman mike selleck on making member -- distinguished members of the subcommittee. welcome -- thank you for the opportunity to discuss efforts and border protection, to achieve strategic -- objective spirit my fellow witnesses have decades of -- experience. and, i am grateful to work with such dedicated professionals to secure the homeland. -- infr