the latest explosion let's now bring in professor patrik dolan director of the unesco child and family reach search center for more on this you're very welcome what is surprising is this that children were brought along in these attacks well it is a bit surprising on it is something that is new house and actually been occurring and certainly over recent times that we're aware of and it is both disturbing and very upsetting. for want of a better term generational. kind of destruction and so excited he would involve please and what is bothering about it is the fact on it. you know children in this case very very young children have been involved in me where we are of child soldier and so exciting for many years but in the context of extreme violence in the context of. you know attacks which are well either suicide attacks or very aggressive terrorist attacks like the ones we've had in europe is obviously this one in indonesia it is very disturbing indeed what does it tell us that in terms of the motivation behind it is it does it would have been easier to avoid drawing attention. well i