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eric holder, one, scott walker, zero. >> so you won in court today. >> yep. >> in wisconsin? >> mm-hmm. [ applause ] >> that's another gift that keeps on giving, you know. scott walker just keeps -- he keeps -- like, hit me, eric, and i'm like, oh, okay, you know? >> that was march of this year, right after eric holder's group won that court battle against governor scott walker in wisconsin. a couple of months later, eric holder and his group notched another win when rebecca dallet won a ten-year term to the wisconsin supreme court. and it's weird to vote on judges, but they do in wisconsin. and in that race, that was the first time a candidate backed by liberals had won an open seat on that court in 23 years. eric holder had campaigned for dallet in madison and milwaukee, his group had pushed over $165,000 in digital ads to boost her campaign. meanwhile, a conservative candidate who governor scott walker personally endorsed for a different judgeship, that walker-endorsed candidate lost his race in that election. and just to put a little bit of icing on the cake, voters also

>> guest: my farm worker scott walker and then later for john kasich. >> host: shirley bannister. >>uest: and that is yes. it's a conservative marketing firm where we work with think tanks in publishing houses in candidates and individuals and things like that. it helps advance whatever mission or cause for philosophy they want. >> host: went from scott walker to governor casey. why did he not catch fire? >> guest: that's a good question. he's very intelligent man, very capable and successful governor. i think quite honestly in part he had all these consultants around him and sometimes that consultant, you know, an old boss of mine once told me never forget the first three letters of the word consultant. [laughter] con. they were getting in the way of him making effective message. i think most of it was hesitancy on the part of the campaign and plus, once dropped stepped into the room he just looked up all the oxygen. people like ted cruz and jeb bush who in other times they were viable candidates but they could be elected nominees they were pushed by the wayside by this colossus who

it was a referendum on scott walker. scott walker should be quaking in his boots., the polls will ebb and flow between now and the election. the democratic success has not. you look at arizona. we should have lost that seat by 20 points in a normal year. and because we had a spectacular candidate, she lost by a little bit under five points, and she's running again. i think kefrtin cinema has a real shot. we're playing a long game. investing and organizing. investing early. we've got candidates like doug jones last year, he didn't want to fight the culture wars. he wanted to improve the quality of life for average alabamans. >> i think you're good. i think you've gotten in 20 names of your candidates so far. i have a final question for you. i heard the point you made about wages. i understand it. it's a legitimate point. simplistically, is it fair to say that you need to hope that james carville is wrong in 2018, that this is not a year it's about the economy, stupid. you need it to be more about all the distraction and noise and other issues and not the financial p

. >> this reminds me of the recall election of scott walker in 2012. there was a effort that he was a polarizing governor, both sides were really invested. overall voters said it seems like it's too much, like overreach, like a change in the process and i'm not comfortable with. that even though i don't like him. >> scott walker wasn't accused of committing a crime. >> right. >> that would be the big difference here. that was an ideological dispute. >> right. i don't know that republican primary voters and voters overall aren't convinced that the president committed a crime here. >> true. >> democratic primary voters under president obama are different than those under trump. this is welcome to thunder dome time. if they want red meat and you are offering mint tea it is not going to go over well. >> the idea that democrats are going to run onna impeach men would be gift to you. but the truth of the matter is when you lock at how upset americans are about health care and what you have all done on health care a democrat would be crazy not to run on that.

tammy baldwints and scott walker. all we are doing is ceding the ground to republicans. we have something important to say to them. >> we have been doing research swinghow to message voters. is there anything you have uncovered that is surprising to you? you think the sister but it is actually not? we did a group that focused on young african-americans. millennials. and in particular those who have not been part of the electoral process. they don't vote in midterm elections or they chose to sit out 2016. they are certainly counterintuitive. it is important for us to hold donald trump accountable, that it while we are doing is talking about donald trump that his motive -- that is not motivating. in many ways donald trump is the living, breathing embodiment of why they think the system is working against them. constantly only talking about trump has a negative impact on their interest. it highlights the point of yes, donald trump is not going to let election be anything other than a referendum on donald trump. the entire conversation is about stormy and mueller. those thin

so, you know, my district's usually 50/50, but president trump and scott walker have done very well there. traditionally those voters have swung to the democrat side. they have now swung more to the conservative center. you've seen urban america become more democrat and rural america become more conservative. that wasn't happening in the lake state. that's starting to happen more now. so that i think would indicate the transition in my district. i think if you say hey, listen, let's have a bipartisan -- nonpartisan set of judges draft maps, does anybody think that judges don't have political opinions because i was a prosecutor for 10 years? i guarantee you they have political opinions. no one is nonpartisan and so i think to have maps drawn by legislatures is the appropriate way who are then responsive to their constituents, but when you take it out of the elected realm and put it behind closed doors with the nonelected who are supposed to be nonpartisan, i don't believe they are nonpartisan. you could ask jeff flake who saw what happened in arizona with the nonpartisan commission who act

wisconsin elects tammy baldwin and scott walker. there still are these changes, and i think if democrats are not in the middle of talking to those voters, all we are doing is ceding the ground to republicans can which is a shame because we have something important to say to them. >> one of the things you have been doing is research about how to message swing voters. is there anything you have uncovered in focus groups and polling that is surprising to you? myths -- areral their liberal myths where you go to democrats and say you think this is true, but it is not true? guy: we did a group that focused on young african-americans. millennials. the coming generation after millennials. in particular those who have not been part of the electoral process. they are not registered to vote, they don't vote in midterm elections, or they chose to sit out the 2016 election. i think the 2 -- i don't know if they they are not registered to are t there certainly counterintuitive, is, one, it is important for us to hold donald trump accountable, but

it was a referendum on scott walker. he should be quaking in his boots. been the democratic success. you look at arizona. we should have lost that seat by 20 points or 25 points in a normal year. we're investing and organizing. we're investing early. we have candidates like doug jones last year. he didn't want to fight the culture wars. he wanted to improve the quality of life. >> i think you're good. i think you've gotten in 20 names of your candidates so far. i have a final question for you. i heard the point that you made about wages. i understand it. it's a legitimate point. but simplistically is it fair to say you need to hope that james carville is wrong in 2018? this is not a year where it's about the economy, stupid, you need it to be more about the distraction and noise and other issues and not the financial picture. >> there's so many people i meet across this country that are still suffering. people who want access to health care and they know who is fighting for them and they know who is not. people in pennsylvania, the coal miners who are con

. >> for scott walker, he would apologized. ted cruz, he would apologize, bernie sanders, apologize, hillary clinton apologize. everybody would have apologized except for one person. >> trump runs towards controversy, he embraces it and he hugs it in a bear hug. >> what he learned from the father of his political persona. >> chuck todd, i hope we're going to be reading a book about that at some point. >> it's a good idea, so i have heard. >> catch chuck at 5:00 on ""meet the press" daily" don't miss it. >>> chuck and i were just talking about candidates, let's talk to steve cowho is at the board, steve, stay with us, we'll be right back. hey! we didn't have a homeowners claim last year so allstate is giving us money back on our bill. well, that seems fair. we didn't use it. wish we got money back on gym memberships. get money back hilarious. with claim-free rewards. switching to allstate is worth it. >>> it is primary day for four states. voters are heading to the polls in nevada, idaho, oregon and nebraska. it's also where dem

scott walker is warning about it. republicans need to take it seriously and not jump on a celebration too early. >> trish: angela, complacency doesn't get you anywhere. hillary clinton showed us that, right? by not going to pennsylvania. you can't be complacent because otherwise you really do run the risk of the democrats able to pull a rabbit out of the hat. >> exactly. complacency would be a mistake for either party. i think what you're seeing now with the reaction to democrats, look at chance the rapper. he said democrats are taking our votes for granted. more and more people are realizing that. when you see democrats as the party that is not concerned about hurting ms-13's feelings, that group will be small. that will be a lonely group. republicans need to be careful. this time around, they don't have hillary clinton to run against. her illegal behavior and her corruption brought a lot of people to the polls. you have nancy pelosi -- >> trish: i don't know if it was that but her personality itself. she was not a g

wisconsin madison her book on politics of resentment rule consciousness in wisconsin and the rise of scott walker is a superb example of quantitative and qualitative research to understand voters. many of you recognize charlie sykes from his time on msnbc started when his name came to our attention by conservative radio talkshow host in milwaukee wisconsin he has written a polemic how the right has lost its mind. a reagan biographer is presenting two books ronald reagan and every authorized biography the making of a reagan conservative. [applause] i will start asking the authors and the impact they hope it would have. >> it is a joy to be with you all. i am a scholar of public opinion with the conversations that i have liar people getting things wrong or making the choices that they are? in my mind if you take that to the extreme we are not capable to have that democracy so instead of asking what are they getting wrong how are they understanding their world? so the book is focused on wisconsin but people in rural small towns research was in wisconsin and to listen to people so i wrote the book so

and yesterday i actually interviewed wisconsin governor scott walker about this, about, you know, arey to campaign with donald trump? and he sort of reluctantly said, well, if he's here for one of the other candidates, i'd be happy to be with him. but, you know, for walker, he's got to figure out is the election going to be about him, or is it going to be about trump, and what does trump's presidency inject into this campaign? i mean donald trump may be teflon, but all these are republicans are velcro. donald trump can get away with stuff that they can't get away with. and so this injects a huge uncertainty for a lot of these republicans in a midterm election because donald trump's not on the ballot. they're the ones on the ballot. >> steve kornacki, among the qualities your co-workers love about you, you never do opinions. you do analysis of the numbers, never opinions. so having laid that out as a predicate, looking at the numbers, can a guy like you say to the democrats, here's some sloganeering that the numbers are telling us is a gulf you could fill. here, republican party, is so

. >> which successfully got scott walker to call a special election he was trying to get out of. >> yeahin supreme court justice there, campaigned there, and got into a bit of a twitter war with governor walker. >> stay out of twitter wars. i'm telling you, first person. if there's one piece of life advice i can offer you, eric holder, if there's one thing i know about really deeply, stay out of twitter wars. >> native new yorker, born in the bronx. >> here as well. >> former attorney general eric holder, you are invited to come by this table anytime you're in new york city. l i love having you. and doj former chief spokesman, matt miller, who recently had a child in your family. congratulations on that. i haven't had a chance to congratulate you. >> thank you. avel... even when i travel... for leisure. so i go national, where i can choose any available upgrade in the aisle - without starting any conversations- -or paying any upcharges. what can i say? control suits me. go national. go like a pro. no matter how much you clean, does your house still smell stuffy? that's because your home

. >> which successfully got scott walker to call a special election he was trying to get out of. >> yeah elected a wisconsin supreme court justice there, campaigned there, and got into a bit of a twitter war with governor walker. >> stay out of twitter wars. i'm telling you, first person. if there's one piece of life advice i can offer you, eric holder, if there's one thing i know about really deeply, stay out of twitter wars. >> native new yorker, born in the bronx. >> here as well. >> former attorney general eric holder, you are invited to come by this table anytime you're in new york city. i love having you. and doj former chief spokesman, matt miller, who recently had a child in your family. congratulations on that. i haven't had a chance to congratulate you. >> thank you. dray, when he was younger, he loved to smile; and we knew he would need braces because his teeth were coming in funny. that's when he had the bunny rabbits. we called him the bunny rabbit. now, those are the same two front teeth, there, that they are now. then dray ended up having to wear braces for 5 years because

. >> which successfully got scott walker to call a special election he was trying to get out of. >> yeahn supreme court justice there, campaigned there, and got into a bit of a twitter war with governor walker. >> dude, stay out of twitter wars. i'm telling you, first person. let me tell you. if there's one piece of life advice i can offer you, eric holder, if there's one thing i know about really deeply, stay out of twitter wars. >> native new yorker, born in the bronx. can't take too much. >> born in the bronx here, as well. all right, former attorney general eric holder, you are invited to come by this table any time you're in new york city. i love having you. and doj former chief spokesman, matt miller, who recently had a child in your family. congratulations on that. i haven't had a chance to congratulate you. >> thank you. lse. lse. why accept it from your allergy pills? flonase relieves your worst symptoms including nasal congestion, which most pills don't. flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances. most pills only block one. flonase. the first survivor of ais out there.se

is usually 50-50, but president trump and scott walker have done well there. traditionally those voters had swung to the democrat side and they have now swung to the conservative side. you have seen urban america become more democrat and role -- and rural become more conservative. i think that educates transition in my district. if you say, let's have a bipartisan -- nonpartisan set of judges draft maps, does anybody think that judges don't have political opinions? i was a prosecutor for 10 years. no one is nonpartisan. to have maps drawn by legislatures is the appropriate way. they are then responsive to their constituents. when you take it out of the elected realm and put it kind close doors with those who are supposed to be nonpartisan, and you could probably ask jeff flake who saw what happened in drawing democrat leaning maps in a republican state. our districts are pretty evenly drawn here it probably the two most -- three most partisan districts are the ones in madison ordain county, milwaukee is pretty liberal, and the suburbs are very conservatives. t

fact that since 2010 we have made some very significant changes under the leadership of governor scott walkerwe now have a 2.8% unemployment 9.3%, 9.2%pared to a unemployment rate which we experienced in 2010 when we first asked our friends and neighbors for these jobs. in addition, we have kept taxes low. we have condensed and dropped tax rates in wisconsin. property taxes are lower this year than they were back in 2010. we want up with a $385 million surplus in this year's budget. so, families with kids under age 17 are going to be getting a $100 child tax rebate back, and then we're going to do a sales tax holiday ready for school so parents can go back and get their school supplies at a little bit less -- a little bit more of a discount than they would have under other circumstances. so, things are going very very well here in wisconsin. additionally, as you are probably well aware, the green bay packers are predicted to win the nfc north. that, is thatl the campaign message as you hear up, u.n. governor walker gear up for a -- you and governor walker gear up for a third term? guest: sure

if we let scott walker innovate in wisconsin to take care of wisconsin patients, drive down prices inbe better off. what my work in wisconsin might be different in other states but give the states more power and control to meet the needs of their populations. that's i think the vision of the president on how you empower people and families and doctors to make these decisions as opposed to bureaucrats in government in regard to healthcare. >> rick: i want to get to the another topic. the china tariffs announcement. i thought they would have worked this out already but it sounds like it will happen again. >> i'm a little confused, like you are, rick. here is what's going on on the back side. we were hoping china would take good faith efforts to reduce some of their barriers to make commitments in regard to the stealing of intellectual property. they haven't gone far enough. the president will keep the steel and aluminum tariffs off the table. if we don't deal with china today, can we deal with the unfair trade imbalance they have with them and they steal our intellectual property and pu

so my district's usually 50/50 but president trump and scott walker have done very well there. traditionally voters have swung to the democrat side now they've swung to the conservative side. i would say you've seen urban america become more democrat and rural america become more conservative. that's starting to happen now so i think that would indicate the transition in my district. if you say let's have a bipartisan nonpartisan set of judges draft map, does anybody think that judges don't have political opinions? i guarantee they have political opinions. no one is nonpartisan. so i think that to have map drawn by legislatures is the appropriate way who are then responsive to their constituents. but when you take it out of the elected realm and put it behind closed doors who are supposed to be nonpartisan, i don't believe they are. you could have asked jeff flake who saw what happened in arizona wh ended up being fairly partisan and drawing democrat-leaning map? a republican state. but i would tell you our districts are pretty evenly drawn. probably the two most, three most pa

another good week for jimmy walker, the former champion adam scott among those at 15 under. peggy nelson, congratulating the champion. what a memorable week for aaron wise here in dallas. he wins in the fading light. we couldn't have gone much longer here in this final round after a four-hour weather delay earlier. the tour will head down the road. as you look at the lineup tonight. the ft. worth invitational from colonial. another memorable week in dallas. good to be with you from trinity forest. aaron wise, the champion of the at&t byron nelson. for all of us at cbssports, thanks for being with us. see you next week from colonial in fort worth. now, at six: a new perspective on the wine country wildfires. from the first responders who risked own lives.. to save total >>> now at 6:00, a new perspective on a wine country wildfire. it's from the first responders who risked their own lives to save total strangers. good evening, i'm brian hackney. >> i'm juliette goodrich. newly released body camera footage shows the chaos as emergency crews helped people in a rush to escape. t