michelle: ashwin is it possible we might get samples back from mars? ashwin: we hope. so one thing we're working on is a mission called the mars 2020 rover. it has some really sophisticated instruments it's bringing with it to mars to do these investigations to look directly for signs of life but it also is proposed to bring samples back to earth one day. it requires a few follow-on missions to do that. something to land a rocket on mars, and then to gather those samples from where 2020 has left them on the surface, to bring them back to the rocket and blast off from mars and hen to rendezvous with the space we've put in mars orbit and bring it back to earth. that's a lot of cool technology j.b.l. has to invent. michelle: we are planning to return to mars, one of the things we're trying to do is figure out where the best places to land next would be. there are some questions here about how are we determining the best places to, where to explore next on mars. jen: one of the big questions is where else are we going to find organic carbon? there are various environments