the water, the river, great merchants and people are dedicated to this town and with a dda, downtown development authority and we have a downtown traverse city association. people come from bigger cities and they have all of that. they don't have what we have in downtown from where they're at. leland: traverse city is in unique in the political climate. a dark red, sort of liberal enclave in traverse city, and how too people react? >> people are here to relax, that's what traverse city syou come here and relax, don't bring your politics and all that, and you know, everybody could be civil if you just talk it out. leland: it seems as though the people in washington could learn a little from traverse city? >> that would be nice. leland: we keep hearing from the administration that they're focused on small businesses, small businesses, small businesses and that's where the tax cuts have an affect. have you felt that? >> we will absolutely, and then with the new supreme court ruling on the internet tax, but now the states have to buy into that, also, and i think once they see the moneys