gorbachev: [speaking russian] mr.eagan: i have asked our scientific people to look into this, see if this is a possibility for us if we -- >> [speaking russian] [applause] [applause] [applause] mr. gorbachev: [speaking russian] translator: esteemed mr. president, esteemed mrs. reagan, distinguished ladies and gentlemen, comrades. mr. gorbachev: [speaking russian] translator: we are approaching the end of the meeting between the leaders of the soviet union and the united states of america, the fourth such meeting in three years. the visit of the united states president to our country is drawing to a close. mr. gorbachev: [speaking russian] translator: the president and i have summed up the results of a dialogue between our two countries at the highest level. we have discussed both the immediate and longer-term prospects for soviet-u.s. relations. mr. gorbachev: [speaking russian] translator: we have signed documents which record what has been achieved and provide guidelines for the future. mr. gorbachev: [speaking russ

gorbachev: [speaking russian] translator: thank you. [applause] mr. reagan: mr.eneral secretary, these are historic moments. as we exchange these documents, the instruments of ratification, this treaty, the terms of which we formally agreed to last december in washington, enters into force. translator: [speaking russian] mr. reagan: mr. general secretary, you know that our way here has not been easy. at crucial moments, your personal intervention was needed and proved decisive. and for this we are grateful. so too, mr. general secretary, you are aware of how important the objective, not just of arms control, but of arms reduction, has been to my own thinking and to the policy of my administration since iutset. seven years ago, when i first suggested the concept of a double zero treaty, there were those who said that this was so unrealistic an idea, it was irresponsible to even propose it. others simply dismissed the concept as a propaganda ploy or a geopolitical gambit. but skepticism and doubt bring a barren harvest. and today on this table before us, we see the

gorbachev, tear down this wall.v in a difficult position with his own politiboro. bret: reagan was widely seen as a warmonger. this wouldn't help, and wouldn't reagan be raising false expectations. >> you don't call for tearing down a wall. that's permanent. who knew of tearing down the wall. probably not soon and probably not in our lifetime. >> he didn't know how and when, they felt it was coming and it was time for him to speak up. bret: so reagan kept the line, telling an aide, boys at state are going to kill me, but it's the right thing to do. >> general secretary gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the soviet union and eastern europe, if you seek liberalization, come here to this gate. mr. gorbachev, open this gate. [cheers] mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall. [ cheers ] >> he was a man of commitment, of vision, of purpose, he knew it needed to be said in what way in that place and time, it was truly a moment of destiny. when you look at what could have not happened had he not said, that t

gorbachev, tear down this wall. that would put gorbachev in a difficult position with his own politiboro. bret: reagan was widely seen as a warmonger. this wouldn't help, and wouldn't reagan be raising false expectations. >> you don't call for tearing down a wall. that's permanent. who knew of tearing down the wall. probably not soon and probably not in our lifetime. >> he didn't know how and when, they felt it was coming and it was time for him to speak up. bret: so reagan kept the line, telling an aide, boys at state are going to kill me, but it's the right thing to do. >> general secretary gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the soviet union and eastern europe, if you seek liberalization, come here to this gate. mr. gorbachev, open this gate. [cheers] mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall. [ cheers ] >> he was a man of commitment, of vision, of purpose, he knew it needed to be said in what way in that place and time, it was truly a moment of destiny. when you look at what could have not happened

first, my meeting general secrey gorbachev, and is so happens with general secretary gorbachev in moscow. the event that held perhaps the most immediate historic importance took place on wednesday. it was then that general secretary gorbachev and i exchanged the instruments of ratification, bringing into effect the inf treaty. the effect of the treaty will be simply to eliminate an entire class of u.s. and soviet intermediate range nuclear missiles. the significance of the treaty can hardly be overstated. for the first time ever, the levels of nuclear arms will actually be reduced rather than having cap's placed on their growth. these missiles will not simply have been shuffled around the map or placed in storage. they will have been destroyed. the exchange of these instruments of ratification alone would have made the summit a success, but the general and i made important progress in other areas as well. we moved ahead on stark negotiations, negotiations that would lead to a dramatic reduction in both sides' arsenals of strategic nuclear arms. on bilateral issues, i'm especially pleased

did it with mikhail gorbachev in the 1980s, but did it with mikhail gorbachev in the 19805, but it dids donald trump's we. he believes that he is the sort of guy that can do deals that other people can't do and that it is his... ijust saw the pictures here, we've got another arrival. no, sorry, that's a repeat of kim jong—un arriving on local television. forgive me, rupert, forgive me for interrupting, i think we're watching live pictures on sentosa with another motorcade, just getting confirmation... yes, this is a live shot, the american flag, giving away, of course, who is inside the cars that you can see here. one after the other after the other. the middle one will stop outside the doors of the capella hotel carrying, of course, president trump. here he is about to exit the vehicle and make his way to the front doors of the capella hotel, exactly before the official summit begins. here he is. way. donald trump there making his way, as concentrated a face as the north korean leader, who made his way there just a few minutes before him. breaking news. we have special coverage live d

another son mikell gorbachev and and in the cold war. in the international institutions there's a chapter on woodrow wilson and roosevelt. his failure to create the league of nations and success in the united nations. then, a chapter on -- in the 1950s who is most effective attorney general in the history. there's also a chapter nelson mandela and for the end of the part tied and reconciliation. we sometimes forget that if you have gone to las vegas and put odds in the mid- 1980s on south africa with nelson mandela being successful one day a president, we would all be rich people. there is a chapter on -- called soldiers, peacemaker on where he succeeded and where he did not. there is an assassination a 95 then they formed a union for peace in the 1970s. a time in northern ireland where they called it the troubles. i was in graduate school during this time in london there is a time where a number of killings went from less than 100 - 500. these were everyday people and we can come back to the story later it was on their mind of losing fa

i can imagine reagan thinking that about gorbachev. he isolated gorbachev. i can imagine him thinking that but i can't imagine reagan saying that. trump may be right. it's odd he would say that. but in a way he's trying to project to kim that he's strong and that kim is not going to be able to get away with any maneuvers against donald trump. >> neil: yeah. keep them guessing as you say. >> exactly. >> neil: thanks, burt, for your perspective and that fine brain of yours. we step way back from this. what is the benefit of trying to make sure it's short and sweet? it would still be short but will the results still be sweet? the read from a guy that served our country not only on the battlefield but in the united states congress after this. sorry, i can't make it. it's just my eczema again, but it's fine. yeah, it's fine. you okay? eczema. it's fine. hey! hi! aren't you hot? eczema again? it's fine. i saw something the other day. myeczemaexcom. your eczema could be something called atopic dermatitis, which can be caused by inflammation under your skin. maybe y

others on mikhail gorbachev and ending the cold war. in the international institutions there's combined chapter woodrow wilson and franklin roosevelt. wilson's go to great the league of nations and roosevelt success at birthing the united nations. then a check on the secretary-general hoo folks may remember from the 1950s it was a most effective secretary-general in the history of the united nations. and then politics identical no surprise a chapter on nelson mandela and for the end of apartheid and reconciliation. we sometimes forget like if you'd gone to las vegas and put odds in the mid-1980s on south africa of nelson mandela being president someday and it being a peaceful transition, we all would be rich people if we had made that bad. there's a chapter on yitzhak rabin what i call soldiers peacemakers in both where he succeeded and when he did not. unfortunately his assassination in 1995. that a chapter to irish women who were less well-known than the others who formed the northern island women for peace in the early 1970s. it was

no matter what happens here, we look back at reagan and gorbachev, reagan-gorbachev would not have beenig deal if it hadn't been for what flowed from those five summits and then the president talking about tearing down that wall and the fact that in 1989 after reagan left office, the wall comes down, eastern europe is set free, and in 1991, the soviet union is dissolved. this is an important meeting, but it's real legacy, it's a real residence through history, will be what happens at the end of the process, not right now through the start of the process. >> ed: jim carafano, i think when you said day of infamy, i think he meant fdr backing up what he said going into world war ii, not wilson. >> sorry. right. >> ed: right about that? john garamendi, the democrat from california, laid out what his three or four baked things are. the president, in terms of what this deal eventually will be, this is just round one, maybe this is just a framework come up with the president has made some bold talk in saying, look, -- hang on, i think i saw chairman kim walking down the hallway there. but i do

first, my meeting with general secretary gorbachev in moscow. the event that held perhaps the most immediate historic importance took place on wednesday. it was then that general secretary gorbachev and i exchanged the instruments of ratification, bringing to affect the imf treaty. the effect of this treaty will anvery simply to eliminate entire class of u.s. and soviet intermediate range nuclear missiles. treatynificance of the can hardly be overstated. for the first time ever, the levels of nuclear arms will actually be reduced rather than having caps placed on their growth. these missiles were not simply have been shuffled around on the map or placed in storage, they would have been destroyed. the exchange of these instruments and ratification alone would have made the moscow summit a success, but the general secretary and i made important progress in other areas as well. we moved ahead on negotiations that would lead to a dramatic reduction in both sides arsenals of strategic nuclear arms. i'm especially pleased by agreement to hold increase

gorbachev: [speaking foreign language] translator: now on this return trip, you mr.resident have traversed the great distance that lies between our two capitals to continue our political dialogue. this is a fact we duly appreciate. [chatter] >> [applause] >> navy you want to say something, mr. president, to them. justdent reagan: i was saying to the general secretary that i had great admiration for .he women of russia i i think you are courageous. i think you bring stability to the whole society, but also to all of you, i think you should know the general secretary and i have one idea in common. bet is that there must friendship between our two countries. >> we want our children to live in peace. >> [chatter] >> [laughter] president reagan: we have talking about an exchange of students on a regular basis. some of your young people will come to our schools, and some of our young people will go to your schools. >> [speaking foreign language] >> the young people will leave while they are young. >> this is a young president. >> [speaking foreign language] >> [laughter] [

david: you met gorbachev many times. james: many times.you were impressed with his intellect and abilities. james: yes. david: he seems to have done an incredible job of changing the course of the world. maybe unintentionally, to some extent. james: much of it was unintentional. david: does president trump call you for your advice? james: no. david: so for people who are watching who would say what are , the words of advice for the congress or the administration from the him great former -- from the great former secretary of state, jim baker? james: i think we absolutely have to understand that one of the biggest threats facing our country and facing our democracy is the political dysfunction we have today. we don't -- you know when i was , there 25 years ago with reagan and with bush and ford, we reached across the aisle. we got things done. it happened with carter. it happened with clinton. that doesn't happen anymore. that is truly tragic. david: your pleasures are still hunting and fishing? james: i like playing golf. i still go to the

gorbachev pleaded for them to stay, asking can we do something here, can work something out? is too late. here's how that was reported at the time to the american people. >> it seems clear than that gorbachev is ready to deal with the u.s., but only on his own terms and at his own pace. for a president with just a year left in office, that may mean steady progress, but not the big finish he had hoped for. >> martha: joining me now live from singapore, "fox news sunday" anchor chris wallace who covered that summit back in 1986. great to see you now and great to see you then as well bringing a smile to our faces as we look back at all the experience that you have had. your thoughts as we watch these motorcades get in placed in a? >> let me say first of all, that kid needed a haircut and secondly, it doesn't seem a day more than 32 years ago, w is exwhat it was. first of all, there is a palpable sense of excitement here. to see the motorcade lining up, to know that these two leaders are going to be driving over to santos island, which is like -- it's called the state of fun, tha

soviet leader mikhail gorbachev. >> the way of democracy is sometimes a complicated way and sometimes trying but it's a good way and we believe the best way, and once again, mr. general secretary, i want to expend to you and to all those who labored so hard for this moment my warmest personal thanks. >> watch real america sunday at 4:00 p.m. eastern on american history tv, on c-span 3. >>> tom beaty, we are about to air interviews that you conducted, oral histories with those on the front line of the combat. how did this project come about? >> sure. i grew up a big history buff, i guess. i didn't grow up in a military family and loved hearing the actual stories of soldiers in combat. i was a military history major and in the process, i began to realize it was a part of history that i loved, not the geopolitical side, the big picture but the fox hole view. i would take them to breakfast, take them to lunch and hear their stories. >> these are firsthand accounts of what they saw. >> absolutely. >> and the horrors of war. >> absolutely. >> how did it come about for you personally? you we

and i was fortunate to have a front row seat. >> one reagan and gorbachev met in geneva in novemberit was the first summit between leaders of the u.s. and soviet union in six years and this first encounter of a lifelong cold warrior and a vigorous business like russian drew the world's attention. a young white house reporter was there. >> no major breakthrough, of course we don't know what's going to happen in these two days of talks. that's going to be the telling sign and that's what we are told by u.s. officials, one of the keys to this whole summit will be how these two men get on during the 12 hours there will be spending together. >> chris: there were no breakthroughs but the two leaders decided they could do business. 11 months later they held a snap summit in reykjavik iceland. gorbachev offered massive arms cuts but only if reagan gave up the "star wars" missile defense plan. it reagan refused and walked out. u.s.-russian relations went into the deep freeze but the deadlock in iceland led to deals a year later. they signed a historic agreement to eliminate all medium-range

reagan was tough on gorbachev and the soviet union. reagan took a tough stabbed.o many similarities and some of the same people that were wrong about reagan are wrong about here. >> right. president reagan's on intelligence to make good. one the first steps he made behind the tweens is to bring back clan destin service officers native korean speaker with extraordinary expertise in the region. and andrew kim who accompanied mike pompeo on that easter weekend trip to pyongyang and he has played a really critical behind the scenes role. i do know him. >> sean: everybody here we have all been meeting and talking with each other. everybody here can verify. this he scares the living daylights out of you. daniel offman and i mean n complementary way. every is, of course, being recorded. when you take a thampsz the chinese and russians. you have been tell me since you got here. i'm sure it's true. not the shower part. i'm hoping it's a slight level of discretion here. >> i'm thought so sure how interesting the shower part would be. >> sean: thanks a lot, daniel, the level

gorbachev was offering him everything. we can have arms limitations, this treaty and that treaty, but you have to give up your missile defense. and reagan kept saying, no, i'm not doing it. and gorbachev said i'm not going to give you anything. and reagan said, well, that's fine. i'm not doing it. so, it breaks down, they walk outside and there's a great scene where reagan, who is not normally this aggressive, is literally in gorbachev's face, poking him and saying, you did this. you made a mistake, you screwed up. you're going to regret this. and he is carhat reagan is really angry. well issue was in congress at the time, and all of the regular republicans, said this is a terrible mistake he had such a good deal. just had to give up the stupid missing defense thing. six months later, gorbachev came to washington and agreed to every single thing reagan wanted, and gave up on trying to stop missile defense. i think trump understands that model. the most powerful nation in the world and you're applying sanctions and who can

what's your reaction, again, we're not quite where reagan and gorbachev were, right?s is just the beginning stages. we're in the first inning what's your take on what's going on? >> well i think this is a historic opportunity and thanks to president trump's leadership and the maximum pressure campaign, its created this opening for a different path forward so in that sense really the future could be amazingly different than the past and so in that sense it is similar, but look, north korea is not a near super power. they are a midevil monarchy a nearly failed state and a rogue regime and with the maximum pressure campaign they're coming from a position of weakness. president trump is extending the lifeline, and now it's up to kim whether he's going to take it or not. the reality is the threat has not changed the sanctions have not been relieved by using all elements of national power we are at a place where if kim chooses a different path forward we could see history change. liz: you've got nancy pelosi and chuck schumer the democrats saying trump and kim jong-un the s

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is this, could we be headed in the same direction as the reagan gorbachev meetings, could we see thath the trump-kim meetings giving kim the power, empowering him in other words to make these huge moves. >> well, i think with gorbachev , reagan summits we didn't know after the first one, so probably a little early to tell but i think the issue here is similar to the soviet union. for north korea and for kim itself, the regime has tied its survival to its nuclear wea programs and to really its own people, so the suggestion that we could, the u.s. could somehow have a relationship with north korea it's likely that that north korea doesn't exist without nuclear weapons or what they currently have their own citizens in, so there's probably a difference there. ashley: yeah, that's a good point. could kim jong-un open up the country, bring economic prosperity at least the beginnings of it, but also keep power? i mean obviously the bottom line for dicts they want to keep power. can he do that while opening up north korea? >> well i think that'll be difficult for him, because the way he remai

gorbachev was at him on everything.e can have arms limitations and we can have this treaty or that treaty but you have to give up your missile tests. reagan kept saying no, not doing it. gorbachev said that we are not going to give you anything. reagan said well, then that's fine. we are not doing that. they walk outside and there's racing where reagan who was not normally this aggressive is literally in gorbachev's face and saying you did this. you made a mistake. you screwed up. you are going to regret this. it's clear that reagan is really angry. i was in congress at the time about the sophisticated people came back and said this is a terrible mistake. he is such a good deal. six months later gorbachev came to washington and gave reagan every single thing you wanted. trump understands that model. the most powerful nation the world and you were the one applying sanctions and bring economic pressure to bear. you actually don't have to say yes. so be very interesting to see how he negotiates with kim jong un next week.

six months later gorbachev came to washington and agreed to every single thing that he wanted and gave up on trying to stop the missile defense. how about i open up for questions. here is the chance to be journalists. you have to be more assertive. [laughter] with many of the entrepreneurs thaty you mentioned a. they were in the zones the government hasn't been able to screw up yet. most of america is still relatively healthy but the impact slowed everything down. they have the current regulatory environment and tax environment we would be 50% further down the ad than we are right now. when i talk to people about how it is at its lowesin history the common response is that isn't trump, that was obama's doing. we were told it was impossible to get to 3% and if elected thee would be a depression, and we were told we should get used to the new normal. search your search engine and see how many show up saying people shouldn't be complaining. carter went onon tv one night wh what became known as the malaise speech. all of you that are miserable, i blame you. they said a recession is when -l

the first summit of reagan and gorbachev, it was him coming to reagan.s coming to see whom. this is not quite that. trump has a properly taken the lead in ways that we've seen. clearly he is in his element. ronald reagan clearly didn't care if i was deemed to be the perception of the media. do you think donald trump who is often compared and looked at how he stacks up against his predecessors, he routinely criticizes them that the north koreans know the last thing he wants on his reputation is that it fell apart? >> that's right, and actually made an excellent point, they said were going to get some things done that have been done which was the reference to his predecessors. donald trump wants to succeed and now back up into what constitutes success, but e's no question he wanted to succeed and he doesn't want to be blamed for making things worse. the good news is, as long as they're talking to each other they're not talking about each other and are not shooting at each other. this is good. >> i agree with you on that, i find it far more productive. [ina

, that it didn't have sense of its own value, of its own purpose, and that when gorbachev opened up, politically that begin the beginning of the end of the subunit. >> let's talk about the implications of this are chinas behave with the rest of the world. you alluded to it before. let's take one issue that is a bit of a sleeper issue that's getting a little more attention which is taiwan. does this mean, it's not either or, one interpretation is china's tolerance for shall we say changes in america or taiwanese party is even more finding than it was before, or does it mean conceivably the china itself could become the agency that tries to make changes? what is your sense of where taiwan figures in things? >> this is a big debate within the china community, about xi jinping's approach. i don't think it's mysterious. he has a number of occasions essentially said that the taiwan issue needs to be resolved sooner rather than later. the reunification of china is at the heart of his rejuvenation narrative. >> do you think this is more than a slogan? >> absolutely need to because he says it

gorbachev had gulags. you had the iron curtain up.rget these are very similar types of people but american leaders have a history of dealing with bad guys and, what we try to do is move them forward to try to make the world a safer place and are concerned about the world's human rights. stuart: is this a complete realignment of our foreign policy? because the europeans, we're at odds with the europeans over trade and they're bitterly critical of us. they're not even part of this agreement with the north koreans. we seem to be getting very close to the koreas, a new relationship with both koreas, in fact? >> well let's put it in perspective. the g7 summit which is what i think you're talking about, the bitterness there, of course this president is a change agent and leaders of those other countries love the 40-yeartatus quo which has been broken from america's standpoint and our leadership has failed to act. this president has put america first. he said we are going to rebuild american industry over his presidency, and that is what he

iot ready to say he is a gorbachev. ashley: you mean he has some level of humanity?. he is living well. charles: i'm not, he is living well, vladmir putin, who doesn't have a great economy, is living well. he is living better. he is a billionaire. and he was able to make, he was able to make more people, but he is extraordinarily popular in his country. ashley: because if you're not, you get shot. charles: i don't think kim sim is extraordinarily hop pour.ç liz: 130,000 people estimated in prison camps called nazi camps or gulags. entire generatf fily behind bars in his prison camps. so you know, human rights issue as well for north korea. charles: you have some -- ashley: what you're trying to sayings charles, him going to south korea, looks what the economy could be. charles: he has been to switzerland. ashley: yes he has. charles: he understands what it could be. his foal, ultimately deal, make sure i'm preserved. i keep the power, at same token. it could still be selfless, right? could be about him being richer, aka, like a vladmir putin. but also enough others

gorbachev tear down this wall.to today president trump is picking up reagan's mantel in doing things differently. >> absolutely. i tweeted it out before i went to bed. steve: that's why i brought it up. >> looking at the historical stuff from last night. this is another point to bring out against state department protocol, the ambassador didn't want him to say that they wanted him to stick with the standard rhetoric and protocol. the president rejected all of that. steve: he is an ad-libber. >> sent that gigantic message. writing in the limousine those lines back into his speech on the way over to the brandenburg gate. you have to think about the symbolism and recognize how powerful the country is, 17, 18 months into the job. the president of the united states recognizes the leadership capability and the skill set that we have inside the united states to help force the world towards greater community. got to give the president credit for that same as reagan. ainsley: is that why the president chose this date to do

-moscow summit between ronald reagan and mikael gorbachev. >> the way of democracy is sometimes complicated, sometimes trying, but it is a good way and we believe the best way. once again, mr. general secretary i want to expand to you and all those who labored so hard for this moment, my warmest personal thanks. america sunday at 4 p.m. eastern on c-span three. district home to the will rogers memorial center which hosts an annual stock show and rodeo. even also find several museums in this part of the city. we visit the cowgirl museum and hall of fame and learn about several women who have made contributions to the american west. >>

weekend, on "real america," highlights of president ronald reagan's moscow summit with soviet leader gorbachev three decades ago in 1988. ere's a preview. [cheers] >> how do you do? > how do you do? evilu still think we're an empire, mr. president? >> no, indeed he does not. if there is a continuation of -- speaking in russian] >> first evaporates so we should have dialogue. good, honest dialogue. >> yes, we want to do that and every time politicians seem to get out of line, you stomp your feet and tell us to straighten up. [speaking in native language] [applause] >> you can watch more from the 1988 moscow summit on "reel sunday. this is american history tv all weekend every weekend on c-span3. >> this june marks the 50th anniversary of robert f kennedy's assassination. next, larry tye talks about his book "bobby kennedy: the making ," in which hecon remembers the life and political career of robert f kennedy. live in 2016.ded it's about an hour. >> tonight we will join in conversation with the noted , who has been a whirlwind of activity the last several days. bill green became a congressman

gorbachev, however insisted we get rid of missile defense so reagan walked away.en expert talks up in the dmz and now in singapore in the final hours leading up to this meeting so i hope they're getting on paper what the north koreans really need to agree to because this is not an occasion to wing it. i know the president thinks his instincts and personal chemistry can solve everything but this is a very complicated subject we need to have very precise language, very precise agreement s with verification or it could be a disaster. neil: real quickly, sir he said over the weekend he could size up someone within the first minute, you know how it's going to go. what do you make of that? >> well that may be true in the business world, but remember what happened to george w. bush in hst meeting with vladimir putin. he said he looked into his eyes and saw his soul and i tend to agree with john mccain's version he looked in his eyes and saw three letters, kgb, so chemistry is a good thing. i think it was worth taking the risk for the president to start at the highest lev

gorbachev, tear down that wall. >> shep: and soon he would. the news continues now with neil cavuto. >> neil: any moment for at&t. it's about time or for time warning. will the companies be able to merge? they tried for two years. very shortly we'll know. why every entertainment conglomerate on the planet has something in stake with this. we'll have it live. meantime, there's. >> seems to me this is not the art of the deal but seems to be the beginning of the art of concessions. >> we ought to have the same caution dealing with a country we've never had much dealing with but be very hopeful. >> if he's going to denuclearize, we have to be sure that all the is are dotted and the ts are crossed. >> if north korea does not prove willing to follow-through, we have to be prepared of restoring the policy of maximum pressure. >> it's imperative that we get action here, not just photo ops. >> if kim shakes trump's hand and receives more from president trump, look what happened to canada. >> neil: all right. after the sit-down, the fallout. glad to hav

i would call i a gorbachev scenario. if you remember in 1987, on this day, june 12th, ronald reagan, then u.s. president reagan, asked gorbachev to tear down the wall, berlin wall. and gorbachev actually did tear down the berlin wall. but together with the wall, he tore down the soviet union, his country, right? and kim jong-un might do the same thing. he's interested in rehabilitating and undertaking pretty serious reform in his country. but his country is , you know, a diflt coury to reform. and he might end up destabilizing the country, which might end in the collapse potentially, and in the clapse of north korea, which can create peace, create war, create a civil war, i don't know. so we can go anywhere. so we have to wait and see. >> president xi jinping has had two summits recently with kim jong-un. not in singapore, obviously. but how do you compare what you saw out of the xi jinping/kim jong-un summits and the trump/kim summit? i think all of the summits were symbolic. i believe president xi never expected north

-moscow summit between ronald reagan and mikael gorbachev. >> the way of democracy is sometimes complicated, sometimes trying, but it is a good way and we believe the best way. once again, mr. general secretary i want to expand to you and all those who labored so hard for this moment, my warmest personal thanks. america sunday at 4 p.m. eastern on c-span three. district home to the will rogers memorial center which hosts an annual stock show and rodeo. even also find several museums in this part of the city. we visit the cowgirl museum and hall of fame and learn about several women who have made contributions to the american west. >> oftentimes the history of the west is very male mythic, how the west was won. this is the only institution in the united states that honors women who came west and who made a difference and are still making a difference. oftentimes, cowgirl, the name misleads people. the different type of people we talk about are very broad. for example, we talk about ranchers, entertainers, artists, we also talk about competitors. it is very much a broad brush of those women w

he established that relationship and he sized up gorbachev. president trump is one of the play right out of ronald reagan's playbook. >> melissa: general jack keane had a bit of a response to what lindsey graham said earlier today and he said that he knows for a fact that there is a new set of even tougher sanctions, came to north korea and china that are sitting on the desk of the president right now that can go into affect in any moment grade happening at the summit is and what he wants. maybe just a little bit further off. i would also say that general jack keane said that the diplomatic blitz that we have seen ahead of this is different. from what we seen fr north korea before. and if you're watching and you're comparing it to all of the time, there is something different going on from their side that makes you think there is a change of mind within this country that they need to come out and do something different and it could be real this time. >> van: newspapers today and pyongyang for the first time are pitting a hopeful picture of wha

and another scenario i would call the treaty scenario, the gorbachev scenario. if you remember in 1987 on this day, june 12, ronald reagan asked gorbachev to turn on the wall -- to tear down the wall. together with a wall, he toured down the soviet union, his country. he is interested in undertaking this country is a difficult country to reform. it could create these, create more, i don't know. we can go anywhere. we have to wait and see. jinping has had a two summits with kim jong-un, not in singapore, obviously. out of the xi jinping andim saw jong-un summit and the trump-kim summit? >> all of the summits were symbolic. nevereve president xi expected and north korea to completely surrender nuclear weapons. it is clear that north korea has a two-phase strategy. phase on try to acquire basic nuclear capability and that was achieved by the end of last year. and now begins phase two, the primary objective is to retain the capability to develop a normal relationship with the outside world. i think north korea is achieving that goal right now. but standing from wher

gorbachev wanted to keep the missile defense in the research stage for ten years.cause of richard pearl, who played the john bolton role at this point, said no. either one could have compromised. it turned out it didn't make any difference as missile defense stuff still doesn't work and we could have made that deal. this is what's so significant about having donald trump make this deal, open up this discussion. i agree with sue mi terry. there's a long way to go here, but we have just taken a major step, a step we can't take back in just having the meeting, having that photo opp. >> sue, what if i told you they're 19 minutes late for lunch? is that a good sign? >> yeah, i think it's a good sign. >> because they're still talking. >> it's better than just walking out right away. yeah, it's a good sign. >> they've got things to talk about. >> exactly. >> maybe they're trying to hammer out the deal. >> we will fit in a break. oh, here we are. we'll be right back. in these turbulent times, do you focus on today's headwinds? or plan for tomorrow? at kpmg, we believe succ

you just mention reagan and gorbachev having meetings. a dramatic detour that the soviet union took. there used to be and east germany and a west germany and now they are united. people can make decisions to change and is unlikely as it might seem with kim, it is still good to put that other vision fourth and have him consider the possibilities of not having to brutally oppress your people in order to continue to be in power, buthaving opportunity for everybody that that would be a new way to have strength. and if people are open to it, there is so much that we need to be done to make this happen. it is very unlikely, but it is worth making the pitch. >> chris: i was going to say, it's awfully hard to get a brutal totalitarian regime to change the way it goes. i want to go to one last point and that is a comment that president trump made almost at the end of his press conference. here it is. >> i think he's going to do these things. i may be wrong. i may stand before you in six months and say hey, i was wrong. i don't know that i will eve

gorbachev offered massive arms cuts but only reagan gave up the star wars missile defense plan.sed and walked out. u.s. russian relations went into the deep freeze. but the deadlock in iceland led to deals a year later. they signed an historic agreement to eliminate all medium missiles in europe although star wars still blocked long-range weapons. >> a secretary and express different points of view. we did so bluntly. for that reason alone our talks have been useful in the area. >> it seems clear that gorbachev is ready to deal with the us. but only on his own terms and at his own wpace. ray present with just one year left in office, that may mean steady hprogress but not the b finish he had hoped for. >> but there was a big finish in moscow in may 1988. walking through red square with gorbachev, reagan was asked whether he still thought russia s an evil empire. >> i was talking to another time and another era. >> again, there was no trevor but reagan spent time pushing for human rights in russia. setting the stage for future. >> is u.s. official become increasingly certain ther

weekend on real america, the 1988us moscow summit between ronald reagan and soviet leader mikhail gorbachev. >> the way of democracy is sometimes a complicated way and sometimes trying but it's a good way, and we believe, the best way. and once again, mr. general secretary, i want to expend to you and all those who labored so hard for this moment my personal thanks. >> watch reel america on american history tv on c-span 3. >> it's november 10, 2015, and we are in san diego, california with mr. mcmahon, from the united states marine corps and the combined action project, hotel 5 and hotel 6. how are you doing today? >> excellent. >> it's a pleasure to have you here. our first question is where are you from originally? >> i grew

gorbachev, tear down that wall. >> shep: and soon he would. news continues now with neil cavuto. >> neil: any moment for at&t. it's about time or for time warning. will the companies be able to merge? they tried for two years. very shortly we'll know. why every entertainment conglomerate on the planet has something in stake with this. we'll have it live. meantime, there's. >> seems to me this is not the art of the deal but seems to be the beginning of the art of concessions. >> we ought to have the same caution dealing with a country we've never had much dealing with but be very hopeful. >> if he's going to denuclearize, we have to be

gorbachev's speech is long forgotten. mrs. bush's lives on as an extending -- outstanding example of american rhetoric from her use of humor to her self-deprecation. she connected with her audience at wellesley and her television audience, because it was broadcast. it had generated so much publicity at the time. barbara bush started her speech, i know your first choice today was alice walker, known for "the color purple." instead you got me, known for the color of my hair. [laughter] prof. hummer: but my favorite line was her anecdote about her friend whose husband griped about babysitting his own children. barbara bush said, when it's your own kid, it's not call babysitting. [laughter] i think barbara bush will be remembered as the first lady of family values. she is often called it -- called the traditional first lady, we have to remember she was not behind her time. she was exactly right for it, as all of our first ladies have been. thank you. [applause] i would be happy to take your questions. >> you mentioned there are no

what i don't think is the same, remember, gorbachev was a reformer reaching out to the west. he wanted better relations shall the west more generally. none of that holds true when we're talking about kim jong-un. >> robin wright has written a great piece lookingack she a line -- symmetry can be the most complex diplomatic undertaking, and president trump is learning with north korea. it strikes me what you said with the impact they're going to have. yes, it was a pivotal moment, but all of the ramifications were not immediately known. >> there was a lot of preparation before nixon went to china, but the second thing is to put this in historical context. for this meeting, the goal, as defined by the trump administration, not me and you or some outsiders, but as defined by them is denuclearization. that's a black-and-white term. it's either there or not. so therefore i think we need to judge the results but how much progress is toward that goal. what was different about nixon meeting with mao, he was trying to change the perception of power, and he was trying to bring the chine

>> reporter: i will go back to the reagan gorbachev era of the 80s.y to look back on that say don't like say, it's very easy. the fact was that reagan and gorbachev helped in the two summits and 85 and 86. at that point they had established a working relationship and have been having talks but there have been nothing concrete that had been accomplished. it took two full years until the 1987 summit for them to sign a major missile disarmament treaty, the imf treaty, and two years from the start of summits before there was a concrete result. i think one of the keys this week, or today, is going to be a definition of denuclearization. the u.s. has made it very clear that they think what is complete denuclearization of the north korean weapons program. while that's a nukes and its enrichment, and its missiles. now what does kim mean by that? is he going to insist that the u.s. remove its nuclear umbrella in east asia and stop sending planes and bombers with nuclear weapons, and, kim is talking about a phased synchronous process where they give something a

they see shades of regan and gorbach gorbachev. we're going to have to allow time to pass to make that kind of comparison. but the president was beaming. he was in a very confident mood on air force one. they were just about jubilant, beaming with pride over what happened in singapore. but you don't get the sense at this point that they have any kind of information as to how they will force kim jong-un's hand here. obviously he came all of that way. i was standing just a few feet away from this person who is a tyrant, a murderer, someone who has jailed tens of thousands of people in these gulags. how can they accomplish as big as denuclearization over a couple hours of conversation? that's where the rubber will meet the road, guys. this administration has essentially given itself a huge challenge going forward. they laid down this historical marker and said we have done something as big as regan and gorbachev but haven't delivered something that concrete. at this point, as the president would say, all talk and no action. >> hey, ji

gorbachev carried out his wallet, his own advisors wanted to take the boys out of that speech. and, that was the worst deal i have ever seen. worse than the wto, the wto. and that is in addition to the money that we have given all the time. i would say that the iran deal was one of the worst i've ever seen. we never had it approved by congress. >> sean: it must be approved by congress. >> president trump: i wanted approved by congress, otherwise it doesn't mean very much. since we took out of that deal, i think iran is a much different place. i i don't think they are looking so much to the mediterranean and syria and yemen, they are starting to pull people out of yemen. they are starting to pull people out of syria, it's a whole different thing. i did it for a nuclear but one of the side benefits, you take a serious look and certainly sanctions played a big part. i think at a certain point honestly, i know the iranian people. i reallyve at some point they will come back and want to negotiate a deal. >> sean: it when we come back, much more to get to with president trump. and le