to theseally tell through huffington post, which is something that i have really experienced. you can reach a lot of people. that makes you think about, how do you talk to a really broad audience, as opposed to a students or other audiences, other academics, these sorts of things. but the online presence makes that possible for many more people. susan cole and you were telling me about an experience, an article you wrote about a on confederate generals. would you tell me that story on camera? jane: sure. what happened in charlottesville last summer, it really brought a lot of historians out into the public square, because h these were things we knew about. we knew about the monuments, the history of them. we wanted to talk about it. that was kind of an interesting moment, just a burst of historians out there. the piece i wrote about was about a virginia general who was a som very successful confederate general who after the war founded an african-american majority third-party in virginia that was extremely successful in elections. he ended up in the u.s. senate. this is a stor

the huffington post, i worked there, or the philadelphia daily news. no one checked the papers.i was lying the whole time. i had to lie to get jobs. >> host: you had to check the citizen log. >> guest: i have a lot of lawyers. do you start admitting your committed fraud? that is the truth. if i'm going to do this and be honest i have to be honest. >> on a personal level did you walk around with a sinking feeling in your stomach 24/7? >> like edgar allan powell's telltale heart. i thought it was one of those things, either someone would help me or i was going to just blurt it out. at the iowa caucuses huckabee won by 7. mike huckabee was actually very friendly to immigrant rights as governor of arkansas and when he ran for president he was really conservative about it. i had a few minutes of this interview and i thought i would out myself. i thought i was going to blurt it out that this person was me in front of you and i did it. i got the interview ted kennedy won and i did it so there were so many moments that i was passing -- passing is seductive. it is easier to lay low, do y

quote -- this is what he told huffington post. if he shot james comey he would be impeached. then you could do whatever you want to do to him. what do you make of that reasoning? >> first of all, i am dismayed by the reference to shooting anyone, especially days after the parkland high school graduation. last thing in the world weht to be talking about is that kind of gun violence. take the statement itself that the president is above the law, only in two-bit tin-horn dictatorships do people talk about the monarch or the reverend leader being above the law. the president is not above the law. i really hope -- here is my main point today, wolf. my republican colleagues will agree with senator grass lgrasst lawyer wlozs who give that advice will be fired. nothing less than the rule of law is at stake in thisdebate, in this week and months ahead. clearly, the president is seeking the last resort and last refuge of someone who believes possibly in his own guilt, namely attack the investigators, attack law enforcement, attack the special counsel. >> we know the special counsel is

what rudy giuliani told "the huffington post" about his client president trump. can indict while he's in office, no matter what it is. if he shot james comey, he'd be impeached the next day, impeach him and then you can do whatever you want to do to him. our correspondent boris sanchez is at the white house. boris, we're still trying to process this, what rudy giuliani reportedly just told "the huffington post" this hypothetical about the president shooting james comey in the oval office. putting that aside for just a

huffington post, in no case can he be subpoenaed or indicted.can you , if he shot james comey he would be impeached the next day, and then you could do whatever you want to him. is that appropriate language coming from the president's outside lawyer? are you talking about the president shooting jim comey in that fashion? >> you would have to ask rudy giuliani about his specific comments. thankfully the president hasn't done anything wrong, we feel come fwortable in that. josh? >> if i could ask a follow-up -- >> i'm sorry, i'm going to keep going. >> not today. >> others have had follow-up questions -- >> they haven't. >> i'm going to direct the question to the josh. >> the president is saying something totally different. how do we believe what you're saying from the podium, if the council are saying something completely different. >> i can't comment on a letter from outside council. >> the words are you said he didn't dictate, then you said he did. which is it? >> we purposely walled off and i would refer to them for comment. >> the question ab

and finally in the huffington post, a study by the british royal college of physicians says smokers shouldctronic cigarettes at nhs hospitals in a bid to persuade people to kick the habit. so let's begin. with me is nina trentmann from the wall streetjournal. welcome back. let's have a look at the headline in the independent. porridgejohnson said he would never approve his vote. but he didn't have two because he was sent out of the country, screw about, disappearing, dingy? —— boris. we found out that he was in afghanistan. convenient that you sometimes have big trips without much notice. this is based a lot of criticism, avoiding the vote by going to get a son. the move was in stark contrast with what we saw last week, at the resignation of the trade minister —— afghanistan. that is what borisjohnson would have had to have done if he wanted to avoid the three line whip which was obliging all mps to vote with the government. he did say that there was no point in him resigning. what would achieve? he did address the issue, but fudge that by leaving. but let's talk about the decision itself.

giuliani said to the huffington post, in no case can he be subpoena or indicted. i don'now how you're going to indict him if he's in office. if he shot james comey he would be impeached the next day and you can do whatever you want to him. appropriate language coming from the president outside lawyer, talking about the president shooting jim comey? >> you would have to ask rudy giuliani about specific comments. we feel comfortable. josh -- not today gentlemen. who these -- ask >> i'm but to direct the question to josh -- >> why is he saying something entirely different. how can we know what to believe. how can we know what you're saying at the podium is entirely accurate? sarah: i can't comment on a leer from the president's outside counsel. >> literally you said you did not dictate but the law said he did. can't respond to a letter from the president's outside counsel. john. >> the question about pardons, 11 days ago the president issued pardons. thiseading proponents for for more than ae dec -- both big boxing fans come a senator mccain tweeted his support. use

and finally in the huffington post, a study by the british royal college of physicians says smokers shouldls in a bid to persuade people to kick the habit. so let's begin. with me is nina trentmann from the wall streetjournal. welcome back. let's have a look at the headline in the independent. porridgejohnson said he would never approve his vote. but he didn't have two because he was sent out of the country, screw about, disappearing, dingy? —— boris. we found out that he was in afghanistan. convenient that you sometimes have big trips without much notice. this is based a lot of criticism, avoiding the vote by going to get a son.

we found reaction from the huffington post, the french version. said.e is what they the decision came late on tuesday, announced by nikki haley. she said they could no longer be part of a body that protects human rights abusers and is a cesspool of political bias against israel. the move is not a surprise given that it is something the u.s. has been threatening to do and it is in keeping with donald trump's trend of pulling out of international organizations and treaties. the u.s. pulling out of the council will be viewed as less as a criticism of an organization that is flawed and u.s.as an example of the and its growing international isolation. they are noting the hypocrisy, because trump failed to address human rights issues with kim jong-un in singapore. prime minister benjamin netanyahu hailed the move as courageous, brown did -- branded the council as biased and anti-israel. a piece from fox news called it the right decision, saying the u.s. has tried to make the u.n. human rights council work. these efforts have been met with different reac

trump's attorney, rudy guiliani, telling "the huffington post", it is impossible to subpoena or indict a sitting president no matter the offense claiming if he shot james comey, he would be impeached the next day. impeach him and then you can do whatever you want to him. and rudy guiliani raising questions about the extent of the president's pardonsing power? >> he has no intention of pardoning himself. he probably does. doesn't say he can't. >> reporter: this hours after the "new york times" publish aid confidential letter that attorneys jay sec low and john dowd sent to robert mueller in january, saying the constitution gives him the quality to "terminate the inquiry or even exercise his power to pardon if he so desired, an argument that is far from settled. >> it is an outrageous claim. it was wrong. they were trying to make a broad argument. >> reporter: his lawyers argued there is no need to sit down with mueller and he can't be compelled to testify, fore shadowing a subpoena fight. >> let them walk through their investigation. but i think if there's no collusion, it's time to win

peoplely matters to have -- >> map, congressional reporter with the huffington post. you can follow him on twitter. gabby, you can follow her on twitter. white house reporter for the washington examiner. we appreciate your time. >> we stay live at the white house come and dissipating a briefing from press secretary sarah sanders school -- sarah sanders shortly. it was scheduled for two, then 2:15, so pushed back a little bit. expecting it to get underway shortly. it should be a fairly full week for the president, as later this week friday and saturday the president attends the g-7 summit in quebec. president trump meeting with the executive founder and chairman of the world economic forum. later this afternoon president trump and melania trump will be hosting old star families for a reception at the white house. ,ou're watching live coverage should get underway momentarily here on c-span. >> live at the white house, expecting the briefing from sarah sanders to get underway in just a little bit. also in washington today, a ruling from my supreme court on a notable case

i'm sure the staff at huffington post is not eating the fast food.ey are having the lunch. and i don't think gay people in swimsuit season are eating fast food. this is a desperate ploy to come one a villain. that proves they have nothing anymore. they have no one to hate. they have to drum up the imaginary villains. if george or well knew that 12 minutes of hate would lead to them yelling at gay people he'd roll over in his grave. find yourself telling people where they are allowed to eat you have taken a wrong turn. it's great to see you tonight. >> thanks. you too, tucker. >> tucker: recently amazon.com the massive retailer owned by the progressive activist jeff bezos that will soon control every facet of your life booted the non-profit alliance defensive freedom from the amazon smile donation platform. why did it do that? it's a political decision. but they hid behind the southern poverty law center a fake civil rights group that classified a. d.f. as a hate group when its is a hate group. christian wagoner is a spokesperson and we spoke to her r

so president trump's lawyer, rudy giuliani told "the huffington post" that mr. trump could shoot former fbi director james comey and still not be indicted for it. and these are the actual words he used. "in no case can he be subpoenaed or indicted. i don't know how you can indict while he is in office, no matter what it is. if he shot james comey, he would be impeached the next day. impeach him, and then you can do whatever you want to do to him." mark geragos, to you first. what does this tell you about giuliani's understanding of presidential powers? is he right or is he wrong? >> well, there is -- i think he is engaging in a little rhetoric, because what it is an open question as to whether you can force somebody to stand criminally trial during their presidency. but i think most people would agree that if a president were indicted during office, all they would do is they could suspend the proceedings or keep the indictment sealed until after the president was out of office. that doesn't mean that they can't impeach him at the same time because impeachment is

her mother were to load she claims they were screaming for hours and no stopping she told the huffington post though quote it was stupid i completely forgot that hand that i handled that so poorly i was completely it was completely stress related and i should have never confronted her that was a mistake a complete mistake please don't make me sound horrible now known as permit patty on the internet allison udell is one of many white women calling or threatening to call the police on black men like women black children for the crime of trying to barbecue selling water or just generally existing probably too loudly for her liking and white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders was asked to leave a restaurant this weekend after immigrant and staff told the owner that they wouldn't be comfortable serving her today were comments of both topics and position as press secretary california represent a vaccine waters told supporters at a california rally this weekend quote if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant in a department store at a gasoline station you get out and you create

been added in just the past three years workers that digital media outlets including garc are huffington post and vice have also won recognition of their rights to organize and bargain collectively. and yesterday as we reported the u.s. supreme court ruled in support of a colorado bakers decision not to bake a cake for a same sex couples marriage what might the ruling mean for other businesses let's find out and bring in america's lawyer mike papen tonio counselor thanks for joining us the contention was that the baker had a first amendment right not to create or bake a cake does the ruling set a precedent for other businesses here. no i think it's a very narrow ruling the spring board handed down it's unlikely to have any real repercussions for other businesses at least for right now what the ruling specifically says is the original group that brought the baker to court was too overzealous a very interesting kind of language here to overzealous in in their attack on baker's religion and due to that incredible animosity that's us all through the opinion how they go back to this issue about in

what rudy giuliani told "the huffington post" about his client president trump. in no case can he be subpoenaed or indicted. i don't know how you can indict while he's in office, no matter what it is. if he shot james comey, he'd be impeached the next day, impeach him and then you can do whatever you want to do to him. our correspondent boris sanchez is at the white house. boris, we're still trying to process this, what rudy giuliani reportedly just told "the huffington post" this hypothetical about the president shooting james comey in the oval office. putting that aside for just a minute, what he's fact -- whether he's factually right or wrong, is there any reaction from the white house about what >> ana, not yet. frankly i would be surprised if there was any response other than referring to us to outside counsel which in this case is rudy giuliani. perhaps not the most tactful way to describe his position to draw this image of the president shooting the former fbi director in the oval office, but essentially what he's arguing is what we've heard the president'

he went on to make another shocking claim to the huffington post saying the president could have shot former fbi director james comey and not be prosecuted. here is the quote. if he shot james comey, he would be impeached. the next day. impeach him and then you can do whatever you want to do to him. it is a theoretical argument and clearly an extreme example, of course, but what are they trying to do here? joining me right now, senior white house correspondent at the huffington post who conducted this interview with rudy giuliani. what did you think when r uni told you that? >> i was very interested in how far they would take the argument they can do basically that they want. they seemed a very regal expansive view of the presidency. when it came out that he could end any investigation, i was curious what else could they -- what other kind of investigations could he stop? i said, well, what if hypothetically he -- you got angry at james comey and shot him instead of firing him. mr. giuliani said, yeah, includes that, no crimes. they would have to impeach him first. and confident that

giuliani drove that point home in an extraordinary interview with the huffington post in which he said if the president, quote, shot james comey, he'd be impeached, but he said in no case can he be subpoenaed or indicted no matter what it is. so he's saying even in the case of murder, the justice department would be powerless over the president. so what about forcing the president to testify through a subpoena. the president's team says mueller, they can't do that either. the memo basically says president's too busy, quote, the president's prime function as the chief executive ought not to be ham pperred by requests for interview. >> can't be indicted, can't be questioned. because it interfered with the presidency. i think we also have a very good argument in a practical sense. this is not just ththeoretical. he's involved in four or five unbelievably historic negotiations right now. >> he's sitting up there tweeting. besides giuliani says the president and his team have already done enough to help bob mueller. >> we'll say, hey, you got everything you need. you got 1 million documents

giuliani told the "huffington post" in no case can he be subpoenaed or indicted. i don't know how you can indict while in office. if he shot james comey, you can indict while he's in office and then do whatever you want to him. let's bring in chairman mike rogers. your overall reaction to that comment that the president could have shotten james comey and gotten away with it. >> not a chance. i know rudy giuliani, i think he's a great attorney. i think he's on tv every weekend for the sole purpose of trying to set the table in this investigation. even the document that was leaked was all about trying to prepare what comes in the next probably few months on the mueller investigation. there is no way -- as a matter of fact, this precedent, by the way john, was set in about 1792 when george washington established the end the public interest consideration and the duties of the president. there's long precedent on the activities of the president. you can't do something that is not in the public interest as president of the united states. i think that gets to the pardon

rudy giuliani told the "huffington post," if he shot james comey he would be impeached the next day. impeach him, then you can do whatever you want to do to him. giuliani making the argument there that while the president is the president he would be above the law if he did something as serious as shoot the former fbi director. then once he was impeached then he could get in trouble for shooting james comey. quite an unusual comment for rudy giuliani to make, but that came on the same day as he was making these arguments about the president's sweeping constitutional powers and what the president's legal team sees this as. poppy, this is something we have long suspected is the thinking of the president and his legal team but here we are now hearing it just out in plain language from the president himself. >> and you asked kellyanne conway, the adviser and senior counsellor to the president, about this point blank, why does the president think he's above the law. what did she tell you? >> reporter: we saw her minutes after the president made this stunning state twier and i asked her w

trump's attorney ruddy giuliani telling the huffington post st impossible to indict a sitting president, no matter the offense. claiming if he shot james comey, he would be impeached the feks day. impeach him and then you can do whatever you want to do to him. >> okay, so the president can't be criminally charged. he can only be impeached by congress. now i understand that as a legal argument. but i do think it's a little weird that out of all of the examples they could haveked they went with murdering james comey. it almost makes me feel like they've been thinking about this. yeah, i'm just saying james comey, if you get invited to a party and trump starts dancing, you should run, that is what you should do, runment but let's make sure we are on the same page here. trump's legal team says the president can't obstruct justice but even if he did obstruct justice can't be indicted. and even if show he is indicted they've got a plan for that too. >> mr. trump's lawyers at the time argue the president cannot be spped o to testify under oath. >> the idea is you can't interfere with him, eith

joined by my guest rob talbot new york he is a political pundit and journalist contributing to the huffington post in west palm beach we have dr gina loudon she is a psychology expert and host of america trends with dr gina and in los angeles we cross to wrongful cone he is a comedian frequent guest on the jimmy door show and the young turks as well as host of his own streaming show get your news on with ron r.-i cross-talk rules in effect that means you can. anytime you want and i always appreciate you know let me go to you because i know your political stripes pretty well and reflect upon what i had to say in the introduction to mean if you don't agree you face insults harassment and violence ask representatives beliefs about what it means to be on the receiving end of violence it seems to me and i don't want to overdramatize things but over the last few weeks it seems to me that part of the political spectrum wants to normalize political violence in terms of speech at least go ahead jeanne in west palm beach it's discouraging because i think that my whole political life has been that sometimes

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attorney rudy giuliani with a shocking suggestion and hair-raising hypothetical telling "the huffington post" in no case can he be subpoenaed or indicted. if he shot james comey, he'd be impeached the next day. impeach him and then you can do whatever you want to do to him. in making the claim that even if the president were found guilty of a crime, he has the power to pardon. >> do you and the president's attorneys believe the president has the power to pardon himself? >> he's not but he probably does. >> reporter: but giuliani says the political ramifications would be too great for the president to pardon himself. all this as president trump's legal team responds to a 20-page leaked memo sent to the special counsel dated january 29th. the president's lawyers arguing he can't be guilty of obstruction of justice as he is the chief law enforcement officer, a claim legal experts are skeptical of. >> so, the notion that suddenly obstruction of justice is not something a president can ever do is a radical theory. >> reporter: and that secret memo revealing for the first time the president's atto

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well let's go to the biggest issue of this country arguably of the continent this is from the huffington post boris johnson lobstering recalled and box to reason may over tory breaks its divisions and this is from private discussions on wednesday when jeremy called on who's getting better at promises questions on the news to be suggested that in a light hearted fashion no doubt the donald trump might be a better negotiator than three's a mate because that's what boris johnson said in a private meeting which is an elite i'm sure boris was perfectly happy to sleep on was smiling yes he was smiling about promises questions but the real problem for britain is not really the internal machinations of the tory party except that those and those in the labor party as well are affecting negotiations with the e.u. and both parties both major parties are kicking the can down the road so far but the road today didn't run out very shortly or we might get exactly what the liberal democrat party one day anyway which is. the overturning of the record really resonate with you because the servants don't want a

her mother were to law she claims they were screaming for hours and no stopping she told the huffington post though quote it was stupid i completely or got the hand that i handled that so poorly i was completely it was completely stress related and i should have never confronted her that was a mistake a complete mistake please don't make me sound horrible now known as permit party on the internet allison idol is one of many white women calling or threatening to call the police on black men like women black children for the crime of trying to barbecue selling water or just generally existing probably too loudly for her liking and white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders was asked to leave a restaurant this weekend after him a great analogy of the tea staff told the owner that they wouldn't be comfortable serving her today were comments of both topics and position as press secretary california represent a vaccine waters told supporters at a california rally this weekend quote if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant in a department store at a gasoline station you get out

driven into the huffington post in west palm beach we have dr gina loudon she is a psychology expert and host of america trends with dr gina and in los angeles we cross to wrongful cone he's a comedian frequent guest on the jimmy doors show and the young turks as well as host of his own streaming show get your news on with ron all right crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate you know let me go to you because i know your political stripes pretty well and reflect upon what i had to say in the introduction to mean if you don't agree you face in sold surround and violence representatives beliefs about what it means to be on the receiving end of violence it seems to me and i don't want to overdramatize things but over the last few weeks it seems to me that part of the political spectrum to normalize political violence in terms of speech at least go ahead gene in west palm beach you know it's discouraging because i think that my whole political life my thing has been that sometimes i'm wrong and i hold myself out to the fact that i may

a joint bid from the united states canada and mexico sports reporter travis waldron from the huffington post believes the united bid will win. if you listen to the north american officials from the u.s. canada and mexico. they've said in the last few days that back in february and march they were a little bit less confident but they're starting to feel more confident again now that they have the votes they'll need are there that they're very close to the votes they need i still think the allure of the money in the revenue from a potential world cup in the united states and the majority of it will still take place in the united states but also in mexico and canada will be too much for a lot of these countries they seem like they have most of south america in the caribbean on their side and the question will come down to what europe and asia do most likely but i would still at this point be pretty shocked if the united states mexico and canada joint bid isn't the winner every year the world's leading technology companies to send on hannover to showcase their latest innovations at the same chan

one twitter and facebook and google have come out with rules about the 2016 election and the huffington post called it the facebook commission so i am curious about your views whether or not that is sufficient? for what should happen with respect to that type of regulation from those platforms? i will start briefly. number one is nice the companies are starting to think about this and take some steps a couple of observations, first, the different platforms the big three facebook and twitter and google are taking different steps to define things like what is a covered add is that the issues what are they doing? what is the threshold different. one of my concern that to the extent the disclosure requirements are aimed at providing contacts and educating consumers you are giving confusing signals that almost makes the problem worse because the how to interpret the different data. in all these different platforms so this is why we need a legal framework to ensure that consistency across from them don't include issue ads that send the mat -- the vast majority are issue add those advertisements on

who weren't in the audience or aren't "huffington post" charter subscribers.o's speech? his 2-word speech? >> from the streets of the bronx here, a great italian-american community, we idolize robert de niro. great respect for the brilliance of robert de niro but to go on live television -- he's from new york. i'm telling you, this will ensure donald trump's election in 2020. to be that reprehensible and to be that vulgar on live television. again, i have immense respect for this man, but it will resonate with the united states. what the prent has done, you have to give credit for. the g7 summit was a negotiation. the president said -- it's a negotiation. then he sits down with kim jong un, it's monumental.-- it's epic, it's historic. the country is embracing it, and north korea is embracing it. we are talking i about peace he, and to get one of your heroes to be that vulgar on live television, tucker, it doesn't play across the rest of the united states. >> tucker: it's a weird response. isn't the argument against trump that he's vulgar? it's hard to make tha

the guardian newspaper la times, huffington post and abc news also waited negatively. speaking of abc, cohost of the view thinks when it comes to human rights violations the us is up there with north korea and saudi arabia. >> you can at least concede what is going on in north korea and saudi arabia is different and worse than what is going on in this country. >> i think it is different. >> white house advisor stephen miller, the reporter architect of the administration of 0-tolerance immigration policy had his cell phone number tweeted by splinter, a news website owned by spanish-language broadcaster univision. in response twitter locked his account. >> it is getting ugly. what do you make of the nonstop outrage? rush limbaugh says this. >> so hate is governing, fueling everything that is occurring in what we call the news media today. virtually every news story has a component driving it which is hate. >> see what our panel thinks? leslie marshall and radio host of wm al in washington dc and editor of the washington times larry o'connor, welcome to you both. what do

the white e also didn't want to touch this outlandish comment from giuliani to the huffington post, claimingted while in office."i don't know how you can indict while he's in office, giuliani said. no matter what it is, if he shot james comey, he'd be impeached the next day. impeach him, and then you can do whatever you want to do to him."jim acosta, washington:"is that appropriate language coming from the president's lawyer, talking about shooting jim comey in that fashion?"sarah sanders, white house press secretary:"you'd have to ask rudy giuliani about his specific comments but thankfully the president hasn't done anything wrong. josh?"jim acosta, washington: "can i ask a followup question? others have had followup questions."sarah sanders, white house press secretary:"no they haven't actually."jim acosta, washington:"we'd love a long briefing some time sarah." (vicki) attorney jay sekulow later released a statement to cnn about the trump tower meeting. he said the january letter quote - "reflects our understanding of the events that occurred." (vicki) there are scenes of utter devastatio

. >> the two of them class quite a bit starting after acosta asked why rudy giuliani told the huffington post impeached the next day. carly: monica lewinsky firing back against bill clinton after his refusal to apologize to her privately amid the me too movement. >> i apologize to everybody in the world. i have not talked to her. i did say publicly -- i dealt with a 20 years ago plus and the american people -- nobody believes that i got out of that for free. i left the white house $16 million in debt. rob: the former white house intern grateful to him. people who helped me gain perspective in the past 20 years, worth reposting this today from vanity fair. she posted it with an op-ed she wrote about the new hope provided by the me too movement. carly: she acknowledges her relationship was not sexual assault but it was, quote, a gross abuse of power. rob: the white house intern said she was diagnosed with posttraumatic stress disorder which she attributes to the national media circus. carly: the former campaign manager says only bill clinton would try to claim he is the victim. >> perfect quint

the presidency protects donald trump from prosecution, trump attorney rudy giuliani told "the huffington post" that trump could have shot james comey and not been indicted for it. >> let's stop right there. mike barnacle, this is really literally out of a tyrant's play book. you pick the president's sworn cal enemy and then you put it out there about the shooting of him and you let the president's followers know that vladimir putin could shoot his political rival and not be thrown in jail. erdogan could do the same thing, except this is in america. rudy giuliani suggests -- i'm sorry. we just have to play this game. what if barack obama had said in 2009, 2010 or let's say eric holder here, what if eric holder had said, you know what barack obama could shoot rush limbaugh and he can't be indicted. barack obama could shoot george w. bush and he couldn't be indicted. the reaction f republicans and the media would b min boggling. >> yeah, well, joe, we no longer have to play the what if game about if barack obama had done this because we now have in reality the what we have game. and what we have

. >> we're talking about rudy giuliani, the lead attorney on the case, he tells the "huffington post" website that hypothetically, the president could have shot james comey to end the russia investigation and still could not be prosecuted for murder, saying he would have to be impeached first. >> it's just the latest in a series of interviews in which giuliani said the president could pardon himself. here is tara palmieri. >> reporter: the shocking suggestion made by one of the president's leading attorneys about the scope of the president's powers. >> do you believe he has the power to pardon himself? >> he's not, but he probably does. >> reporter: rudy giuliani was responding after a secret memo leaked to the "new york times." in it, trump's lawyers claim the president can't be guilty of obstructing justice and has the authority to terminate the case. while giuliani said a self-pardon may be legal, it would come at a high political price. >> the president of the united states, pardoning himself would just be unthinkable. and it would -- it would lead to probably immediate impeachmen