kyle turley, mike james. they felt they needed the opioids just to be able to do their job. >> your production is how you get paid. and you can't produce, you know, without playing on the field. >> opioids they were told by doctors were the best way to keep going. >> i got in to pain medicine at a time when we didn't have very good treatments for pain. >> dr. mark wallace is the director of the center for pain medicine at the university of california san diego. he like most of us doctors was taught in medical school to prescribe opioids. >> we were told, well, there's evidence that the use of opiates are probably not that risky and that we should use them more liberally. >> they don't wear off. >> it was the 1990s and doctors were seeing a lot of commercials like this one. >> these drugs which i repeat are our best, strongest pain medications should be used much more than they are for patients in pain. >> problem is, while they were fda approved for some kinds of pain, they were never intended to be used long

we are joined by jonathan kyle turley. it's good to see you. >> this is a big development.t seeing "hamlet." he is walking on next -- walking on the stage next week. i expect him to say the e-mail were his personal political view point and didn't interfere with his position. but there is a lot of specific questions he will face. including a meeting that was referenced by page talking about an insurance policy against president trump being elected president. that meeting was supposedly attended by andrew mccabe but mccabe says he has no recollection of being at the meeting. so there are conflicts with other key people maybe he can clear up. >> martha: there is so many questions that just come to my mind thinking about this. you think about the text message that said, you know, when discussing the prospect of a trump presidency, like don't worry. then the quote, "we will stop him." we will see what his answer is to why he would have said that in a text message. >> he may say look, this is hyperbolic and unprofessional but there are also specific think things he was involved w