mr. davis, heard the gunman reload. and we're also told the gunman himself, ramos, tried to evade officers when they interrupted this attack. he was found hiding under a desk himself elsewhere in the building. >> ms. lipinski's account, the wife, he was accounting and all these accounts just horrific. i want to bring in phil mudd and a former fbi agent. good evening to both of you. you heard shimon talk about the latest on the investigation. where do you think this is going? >> i'm sitting here thinking it's 7:15 a.m., but we would be sitting back talking with robert mueller, a couple different elements we would be talking about. the media is talking about motive. i don't think that would be primary in the investigation right now. it's a key question, but there's a couple of other questions. number one, are we sure we have pattern of life on this individual himself, now we know who he is. facebook, travel, credit cards, he has a vehicle. for a couple of reasons. did anybody participate with him? that's a criminal investigation. did anyone assist him, for example, even providing motivation, what you're doing is appropriate? did anyone even know were they cognizant of the faskt he was going to go out and condu